Best of 2024: Richard Linklater on the Killer Chemistry in his Romantic Comedy “Hit Man”

In Richard Linklater‘s latest film, an irresistibly sexy romantic comedy that’s also a bit of a noir, a giddy satire on the hitman genre, and a screwball quasi-whodunit, the one constant is a vibe that is decidedly and effusively all Linklater. Glen Powell, a rising star who has been Linklater’s longtime collaborator through a string of roles dating back to 2006’s Fast Food Nation, plays Gary Johnson, a professor of psychology and philosophy at the University of New Orleans who is as passionate about Nietzsche as he is dispassionate about the affairs of his own life. Based on a true story written by Skips Hollandsworth for Texas Monthly and adapted (with generous tweaks) by Linklater and Powell, Gary’s pleasantly low-wattage life—tidy apartment, a Honda Civic, a pair of cats named Ego and Id—gets put under the hot lights when his tech consultancy work for the New Orleans Police Department turns into a last-minute job going undercover to pose as a contract killer.

Hit Man. (L-R) Director and Co-Writer Richard Linklater with and Co-Writer Glen Powell as Gary Johnson. Cr. Matt Lankes / Netflix © 2024

This brings Gary into the orbit of some delightfully sketchy characters—few directors alive give their actors, even ones in single scenes with a few lines—quite as much loving attention as Linklater. The oddballs and misfits Gary comes into contact with as he continuously tweaks and tailors his hitman personae to match the clientele are both a running gag and a solid case for why Linklater is one of the best directors of actors working today.

But then Gary comes into the orbit of Madison (Adria Arjona), a beautiful, emotionally battered young woman who wants to off her abusive husband. Up until now, Gary (via a knockout performance from Powell) has been having the time of his life duping would-be killers into the clutches of the NOPD, but with Madison, it’s different. There’s chemistry: abundant, immediate, intellectual, and physical. There’s a snap to their every interaction, a syncopation of rhythms. Gary is willing to bend the rules to keep Madison out of harm’s way and, inevitably, into his arms. The question becomes how far Gary will go to protect her and how far Madison is willing to go to protect them both.

In Linklater’s able hands, working with some of his most trusted allies like cinematographer Shane Kelly and editor Sandra Adair, Hit Man sizzles from start to finish and proves Gary’s beloved Nietzsche may have been right when he wrote, “There is always some madness in love. But there is always some reason in madness.”

Linklater explains the methods to his madness below.

I’d love to start with your casting process. Glenn and Adria have abundant onscreen chemistry, but the entire cast, down to people with single scenes, really pops. Can you describe the process of working with casting director Vicki Boone?

Yeah, well, casting is the crucial moment, isn’t it? You’re dead in the water if you get the wrong person in there, so that’s always been such an intuitive, important process, and you just kind of know them when you see them, and I’ve loved partnering with Vicki because she loves actors. She just has a feel for them, and we explore this together. She’s just an enthusiast. You gotta love actors and see the possibilities in people.

Hit Man. (L-R) Austin Amelio as Jasper, Sanjay Rao as Phil and Retta as Claudette in Hit Man. Cr. Brian Roedel/Netflix © 2024

It looks like the camera really loves each and every one of these goofballs. Is that something you talked about before with your cinematographer, Shane Kelly? Or is it at this point, because you guys have worked together for so long, that it’s kind of a shorthand?

It’s a shorthand. I just think it’s an attitude that pervades the movie. The tone is set by the director, of course. We respect these people, even though they’re desperate sad sacks making huge mistakes in their lives. We have respect for the actors, too. We rehearse a lot, and we try to think through our parts and really bring our best to them so that the actor finds that character in them.

Hit Man. (L to R) Glen Powell as Gary Johnson and Richard Robichaux as Joe in Hit Man. Cr. Netflix © 2024

One moment that stood out was when Gary was undercover as a German hitman with red hair and freckles, and the guy he was talking to has a really deep Cajun twang. Was that exchange as fun to film as it was to watch?

Absolutely. The actor Glenn is working with is Richard Robichaux, who I have worked with a lot. He’s actually from Louisiana. He kind of tweaked up the Cajun accent a bit, but it was like these two guys are from other planets. Gary even asks him, “Where are you from?”And Richard’s character is looking at him thinking, “You’re from Mars, maybe? Some other planet,” you know? That character Gary is playing then, we called him Dean, the orange-haired, strange-accented, freckled guy. Every department, from hair, makeup, and costumes, everybody just pushed it to the max here. It was still grounded, but way, way out there. We had fun.

Hit Man. (L-R) Adria Arjona as Madison and Glen Powell as Gary Johnson in Hit Man. Cr. Netflix © 2024

The spark between Glenn and Adria is potent. I haven’t seen a movie like this in a while that focuses on two people with tremendous chemistry who take so much pleasure in it. What was it like capturing that on camera?

Yeah, I always refer to this as kind of like my 80s throwback movie where people really had sex and they were driven by passion and it got them in trouble. And, you know, one of these kinds of movies they don’t supposedly make much anymore. You get the right people in there like Glen and Adria; they’re such charismatic, vivacious people, and they’re both smart and funny. It was just fun to work with them. But you can’t create chemistry. They either have that or they don’t. But you can kind of nurture it. You can give it room to articulate itself and find a new level. But you can’t – you can’t fundamentally create it. It’s like it’s hard to create funny people—people are funny or they are not. It was easy with Adria and Glenn. They’re there already, you know.

Hit Man. (L to R) Adria Arjona as Madison Masters and Glen Powell as Gary Johnson. Cr. Courtesy of Netflix

There was a snap to their banter. Hit Man just seemed like a movie that would be fun to make.

Oh yeah. And that fun started in the workshop rehearsals that I do, and the way we process the script, touch it up constantly, keep pushing ourselves and each other, and make each other laugh. So yeah, it’s a process, but it was really fun. Every bit of it was joyful.

You’re a veteran screenwriter as well as director, but I’m curious how difficult adapting this story from Skip Hollandsworth’s Texas Monthly piece was, considering you have several surprising twists you and Glen, your co-writer, created, which I imagine is not an easy thing to nail.

It was fun to be able to do that. Most of my stuff is character-based, which doesn’t really rely on that. I often make fun of it, it’s like, “Well, plot twist, that hat’s artificial.” Your life doesn’t give you that many plot twists. So it was fun to actually go into that world and create plot twists. I wanted to do it well. I wanted to really go with it and make it work. I don’t want a lot of holes in the story. I don’t want people asking questions. I want it to be tight, tight, tight, and I want to get it perfect and keep going. It was great to have those classic twists. Cinema, it’s got good roller coaster potential.

Hit Man. (L to R) Co-Writer Glen Powell as Gary Johnson with Adria Arjona as Madison on the set of Hit Man. Cr. Brian Roedel / courtesy Netflix

I want to ask about the pacing. You’ve worked with your editor, Sandra Adair, for a long time, and Hit Man moves at such a fun, screwball pace, yet it doesn’t draw attention to itself. Again, is this just shorthand between you and Sandra at this point, or were you talking about this before you started filming?

We share the same postproduction brain, that’s for sure. She can just look at my footage and go, “I know what you’re thinking.” In general, this one we actually did move things around in post, it took a little more finagling than usual. Usually, my films have this A-Z quality, and they don’t deviate that much. In this one, we kind of moved some things around and paced things out a little differently. It was more tweaking; I didn’t do reshoots or anything, but it was a little more time-consuming than usual. But I’m not surprised, given the tone and the genre we were working in, because, especially with the performances, I’m always going for this kind of effortless vibe.

That effortless vibe is another hallmark of your career and your way with performers specifically.

Sometimes, that works to the detriment of the actors, like people think they’re just improving or it’s not really acting because they just seem real. We all know what gets rewarded is when you just see the effort and the big stuff. But I’m typically not that interested in that. There is some big stuff here, but it’s the story we’re telling. It’s pretty crazy.

Another thing that stood out was that here was a New Orleans-set movie without a single shot of Bourbon Street…

Yeah. Thank you. I made a film in Paris and you never see the Eiffel Tower. Someone can eat a normal meal in Louisiana and not have it be some exotic Cajun dish, and people don’t all have these Cajun accents. There’s not voodoo and alligators everywhere. They’re just great people. New Orleans is full of big characters. But yeah, every shot doesn’t have to take place in the French Quarter. You know, we never stepped foot in the French Quarter.

There are some great diner scenes in this movie.

The real Gary Johnson loved Denny’s. New Orleans happened to not have many Denny’s. I don’t know if we could have gotten them on a corporate level anyway; I’m not sure they’d want to be associated with murder deals. But yeah, he liked meeting in little diner-type places that felt real, you know?

Hit Man is playing in select theaters and now streaming on Netflix.

Featured image: Hit Man, (L to R) Adria Arjona as Madison, director & co-writer Richard Linkletter, co-writer Glen Powell as Gary Johnson, and director of photography Shane F. Kelly. Cr. Brian Rondel / Courtesy of Netflix

Best of 2024: “Furiosa” Art Director Jacinta Leong on That Breathtaking 15-Minute Action Sequence

Nine years after Mad Max: Fury Road star Charlize Theron wreaked havoc as bad-ass adult Furiosa, director George Miller revisits his post-apocalyptic nightmare with Furiosa: A Mad Max Saga (in theaters now). The prequel, starring Anya Taylor-Joy, Chris Hemsworth, and the mighty first-generation War Rig truck, features one of the year’s most spellbinding action sequences, a relentless, 15-minute mind-melter that took 78 days to film. 

While the 15-minute sequence is the most thrilling action scene of the year (in any film), it’s but one of several hyper-violent set pieces set against a backdrop of desolate settlements. Helping Miller bring the world into focus is art director Jacinta Leong (The Great Gatsby, Alien: Covenant, Fury Road), who worked with production designer Colin Gibson on Furiosa for three years to modify the Australian desert into the near-future hellscape that forces young Furiosa to become a warrior.

Speaking from Melbourne, Leong talks to The Credits about how the real world informed Furiosa‘s scarcity-ravaged fantasyland.

 

How did your experience on Fury Road prepare you for Furiosa?

In some ways, it gave me a head start on the way George Miller works. Also, we wanted to create continuity, so with the War Rig for example, we literally used the same tanker from Fury Road

The tanker was still around?

We took it out of storage from Bathurst, where it had been sitting for ten years, and used that chassis and structure for the War Rig. It saved us some time and money – – what’s not to like? In Furiosa, they make things by reusing and recycling; we did that in the movie!

Caption: An action scene being filmed on the set of Warner Bros. Pictures’ action adventure “FURIOSA: A MAD MAX SAGA,” a Warner Bros. Pictures release. Photo Credit: Jasin Boland

The War Rig truck stars in this huge chase sequence on a desert highway where the driver, Praetorian Jack (Tom Burke), and stowaway Furiosa, hiding under the truck, get attacked again by men on flying motorcycles. How did you contribute to that sequence?

In general, the production designer is the what, and the art director is the how. Colin is different in that he does both. [For the War Rig] myself and our set designer, Jemma Awad, did the drawings of this amazing machine for the stowaway sequence and drafted construction drawings so the mechanics could build this fully defensive vehicle, with harpoons at the top of the tank, a pair of excavator arms, a “Bommy knocker” at the back with the spinning cones and sharp spikes and mace balls. 

Furiosa (Anya Taylor-Joy) in in Warner Bros. Pictures’ action adventure “FURIOSA: A MAD MAX SAGA,” a Warner Bros. Pictures release. Photo Credit: Jasin Boland

And then where did the model go from there?

I sent the model of the vehicle to action designer Guy Norris and his stunt team so they could import it into their pre-vis and flesh out the sequence that way. 

Did you have references in mind for this “stowaway” set piece?

We’d refer to the [1939 John Ford-directed] movie Stagecoach as a foundational set piece because everything happens in, close to, and around it. Those Old Hollywood images have a Western element and helped get us to the heart of the sequence.

The motorcyclists who attack the War Rig are relentless and ingenious.

It’s a next-level attack. In Fury Road, they had the pole attacks, [going back and forth] like metronomes, so attacks from the air are one of the dimensions of Mad Max warfare. Here we had what we called Mortiflyers that used paragliders. Someone demonstrated a paraglider in a studio lying on the ground with all the cords, and he only ran about ten meters before it lifted him up.

Jacinta Leong working on “Furiosa.” Courtesy Warner Bros.

So it’s actually feasible that your “Mortiflyers” could become airborne in the real world.

Yeah. Colin and I like to embed reality into these stories because if it doesn’t work, if it looks wrong, the audience may not buy it, and then you’ve lost.

 

Motorcycles play a big role for many of the survivalists of Furiosa.

Just like in our real world, we have punks and goths and country western people, well we have different groups, and motorcycles became a way for us to define and identify these groups. The Militia tribe had Harley-Davidsons and police bikes. For the Toe Jammers, which we also called roo-billies, the motorcycles were dressed appropriately. For the Mortiflyers, some of their motorcycles had bird head sculptures of reused metal objects and feathers of plastic.

Caption: Chris Hemsworth in Warner Bros. Pictures’ action adventure “FURIOSA: A MAD MAX SAGA,” a Warner Bros. Pictures release. Photo Credit: Courtesy of Warner Bros. Pictures

And Dementus rides around like a Roman gladiator on this motorcycle chariot, which is very cinematic.

One of the things we looked at was this 1937 Sydney police race. 

Furiosa’s journey begins in the Wasteland Dementus and continues to The Citadel, Gas City, and Bullet Farm. How did you conceptualize each of these settlements?

The Citadel, established by George and Colin in Fury Road, is this rock formation where Immortan Joe pours water from his balcony. What we saw new in Furiosa was Rictus’ den. It’s naturally formed spaces made from erosion and lava, but they also carved some parts out as well. Our plasterers were very excited because we’d take a mold off real rocks and have them do a “squeeze,” we call it. That’s why they look so real: the geometry comes from nature.

 

Then there’s the grimly industrial Gas Town.

Gas Town is a sprawling infrastructure surrounded by a moat and a pair of gates. Its distilling tanks create fuel and oil. We visited the Qenos gas plant in Sydney and gained some inspiration from that.

What about Bullet Farm, which looks like an awful place to live?

We were inspired by the very dark, dehumanizing Brazilian goldmine, disused now, called Serra Pelade. We looked at incredible black and white photos of minters there, really deep down [in the earth] on rickety ladders. We found some images of dwellings carved out of the rocks, and you’ll see parts of caravan or corrugated iron stuck in the wall.

In contrast to the smooth digital technology seen in so much sci-fi, Furiosa features a lot of analog steampunk technology — gears, pulleys, and old-time instruments.

That’s one of the things that separates Furiosa from the slick CGI worlds. This is a harsh, unforgiving exterior [environment]. We got spools from telecommunication companies, which use them to lay cable. We procured six of those, cut them, and put the treads on them, so again, that’s reused in The Wasteland. We also used telescopes from the sixties, which gives you a more textured look. It wouldn’t look as good if we had used a modern telescope.

It seems that resource scarcity played a big role in defining a future world in which water, fuel, and food are in short supply.

Our design mantra is, “Everything has to be re-purposed, re-used again and again. For example, [early in the movie] young Furiosa reaches a truck with an excavator arm on it. That same excavator shows up on the War Rig years later. Another example is when Dementus hijacks a Citadel truck coming back from Gas Town and takes the hood off that Mack truck. Then we see it appear later on his six-tire monster track. The excavator arm, the hood of the truck, the war rig, the harpoon shield—there’s an economy to it.

Caption: Chris Hemsworth in Warner Bros. Pictures’ and Village Roadshow Pictures’ action adventure “FURIOSA: A MAD MAX SAGA,” a Warner Bros. Pictures release. Photo Credit: Jasin Boland

In his Mad Max movies, George Miller has told such an epic near-future saga that some might call him a visionary. What’s he like to work with?

He’s wonderful to work with. George can be very specific about things. It’s our job to bring ideas to him, and he always listens. When we present something, he’ll zoom in on some detail, like even the pipe on a motorcycle: He’ll go, ‘Can we just change it a little, the flow or the shape.’ Every week, we’d sit down in a group with George and Colin, our supervising art director, Sophie Nash, and art directors Laurie Faen and Nick Dare. I loved having those conversations. We all collaborated to bring things to the table.

 

For more on Furiosa, check out these stories:

After “Furiosa” Blows the Doors off Cannes, George Miller Revs Up the Possibility of Another “Mad Max” Film

“Furiosa” First Reactions Hail Another Super-Charged Stunner

Anya Taylor-Joy Forges Her Path in Explosive New “Furiosa” Trailer

Featured image: Caption: War Boys in Warner Bros. Pictures’ action adventure “FURIOSA: A MAD MAX SAGA,” a Warner Bros. Pictures release. Photo Credit: Jasin Boland

Best of 2024: “Shōgun” Editors Aika Miyake and Maria Gonzales on Cutting Mariko’s Heroic Path

*This interview was selected by measures having nothing to do with science as one of our standouts from 2024. Miyake and Gonzales unpack how they helped the story of Anna Sawai’s incredible Lady Mariko.

The first season of Justin Marks and Rachel Kondo’s masterful Shōgun was an expertly paced slow-burn drama that plunged viewers into 17th-century Japan with a passionate obsession with the rigors and wonders of the period and location. The new Shōgun shifts its center of balance from the swashbuckling but woefully out of his depth British pirate Blackthorne (Cosmo Jarvis) to his Japanese captors. Blackthorne has washed ashore on a land in the midst of a tectonic power shift, with Ishido Kazunari (Takehiro Hira) plotting his takeover in Osaka while the brilliant but taciturn Lord Yoshi Toranaga (star and producer Hiroyuki Sanada) strategizes a way to keep the peace and, if possible, his own head in the process. He entrusts the brilliant, emotionally bruised Lady Mariko (Anna Sawai) to act as his translator to the “Anjin,” their name for Blackthorne, whom Toranaga sees as a potential key chess piece in his eventual move against Ishido.

All of this plays out over a perfectly paced 10-episode arc, easily one of the most captivating seasons of television this year. While editors Aika Miyake and Maria Gonzales are quick to point to the embarrassment of riches they had to work with—sensational performances, an incredible story, period-perfect details—it was their work, alongside fellow editor Thomas A. Krueger, that gave the rebooted Shōgun its perfect, haunting shape.

We spoke to Miyake and Gonzalez about what it was like cutting a series with an ensemble that included so many memorable performances and pacing a story that never felt rushed or halting but moved with its own brilliant, brutal logic.

Maria Gonzales and Aika Miyake.

What conversations were you having with showrunner Justin Marks about your approach to pacing the series?

Maria: Maybe a week before they started shooting an episode, we have these tone meetings, which for Justin are kind of legendary on his shows because they can go for hours or even sometimes a couple of days. Justin is a cinephile, so we hear a lot about movies that inspired him and what TV shows inspired him, but there’s no specific talk about pace. I think for both Aika and me, once we started getting the footage, you just sort of let the footage guide you on what it wants to be.

Aika: A funny thing about our show is that we have Japanese and English, and Japanese tends to take twice as long to be said. So I looked at the subtitles in the initial cut, and they just sat there for a long time. So I remember the moment realizing I had to cater to both Japanese and English audiences and strike a good balance so the Japanese subtitles weren’t too fast and the English subtitles weren’t too slow—that contributed to pacing. And to add to Maria’s point, we had so much great stuff that it could feel like, “I don’t want to let it go,” but you have to make difficult decisions. And Justin and the studio allowed us to experiment.

How do you make those difficult decisions about cutting sequences and scenes you love?

Maria: So initially, we do our cut, and then we work with the director of the episode for several days on their cut. And for the most part, the directors cut very few scenes. Once we get to Justin, a lot of the really big decisions get made. There was a lot of back and forth, and some lovely scenes in the first episode had to go because you’re weighing your options and asking, “Am I getting the same emotion from this other scene?” We also had lovely scripts and all the work that Justin, Rachel [Kondo], and the writers did to establish these really dynamic characters. And casting did a phenomenal job, like casting Tadanobu Asano as Yabushige. So it was just an embarrassment of riches for us when those dailies started coming in, so it was our job to give its due and do it justice. It’s inherent that information will repeat, but to Justin’s credit, he never wanted to dumb the show down for the audience. There was a trust that the audience was in on the ride and would get it.

Aika: I want to add something to what Maria said about the repetitiveness of emotions or information. We identify if two lines are actually doing the same thing, so when something felt really repetitive, I’d explain to Justin that’s why I just took this line out. We had that freedom to explore, and I really appreciated getting that space. I remember in episode 8, the initial cut was a hundred minutes or so, and I remember the shift where we had a lot of Ochiba [Fumi Nikaidô] scenes at the beginning of the episode, but while we started editing the whole thing, episode 6 was more about Ochiba, and that was doing enough of her story that we didn’t have to come back to it in episode 8. When I took it out, it felt so right. I watched episodes 5 through 8, and the flow made sense at that point.

(Spoiler alert) An interesting element of the series is that Toranaga is a step ahead of everyone, including the viewer, throughout the season. This is especially true in episode 8, when his number two guy, Toda [Tokuma Nishioka], commits seppuku in what appears to be despair at Toranaga’s decision to give up.

Aika: My understanding was there were spies everywhere. In episode 2, one of the Kosho working for Toranaga turns out to be a ninja coming to kill Blackthorne. So, understanding the world and everyone’s a spy, I understood that Toranaga had to have a poker face in that scene with Toda. Once you understand that, you understand the acting choices that Hiroyuki Sanada makes. He’s almost a guide for me to pick out the good parts and build the story. Especially the scene with Toda committing seppuku. In my first cut, I missed this close-up of Hiromatsu and Toranaga staring at each other. Toranaga flinched a little bit, and Hiromatsu realized he was doing it for real. That was something that director Emmanuel Osei-Kuffour said, “This has to be in this scene.” I understood then the way the scene was built, and that moment was so crucial. Hiromatsu didn’t exactly understand what Toranaga was doing, but he trusted him enough that he must die today. That was a huge, huge moment.

“SHŌGUN” — Pictured: Tokuma Nishioka as Toda Hiromatsu. CR: Katie Yu/FX
“SHOGUN” — “Abyss of Life” — Episode 8 (Airs April 9) Pictured: Hiroyuki Sanada as Yoshii Toranaga. CR: Katie Yu/FX

Maria: I think the way Hiroyuki Sanada performs, there’s no real choice to make on our part. It’s not like we were going through a variety of takes and trying to make sure he stayed consistent; he was very consistent. He knew what this role was. So, between him and the writing, I think it was kind of inherent to the project.

Aika: The funny thing about that scene is it’s the most emotional we see Toranaga, and he’s really holding back.

Maria: It’s the only time really in the show he’s emotional, there and a little bit toward the end when Mariko dies, but for the most part he’s very consistent and on his mission.

Let’s end with Mariko, who is such an amazing character. You could argue that among all these fascinating characters, she ends up becoming the one we root for the most. I’d love to hear about what it was like cutting Anna Sawai’s amazing performance.

Maria: We’re so lucky to have Anna on the show. Most of my work was with her in episodes 1 and 4. For me, her introductory scene in 1 was one of my favorite scenes that I cut. This is when she comes to Fuji [Moeka Hoshi]’s aid. Her husband has made a misstep, and now he needs to commit seppuku and end his bloodline, and she’s holding her baby and not wanting to let it go. Mariko comes in and handles the situation, and right from the get-go, even though it’s a brief scene, so much of who she is is established in this scene. She shares a past with Fuji, that she too wants to die, she’s such a complex character. For me, as a woman cutting a character that is so complex, torn between her duty to protect her family name, her duty toward Toranaga, and her love for John Blackthorne, it just made all the scenes I had with her multilayered. Even in episode 4, which was the love story development between her and John Blackthorne, almost every scene is imbued with such complexity and tries to explain her loyalty toward her culture, but she is also torn with this love interest. You don’t always get such complex female characters.

“SHOGUN” — “Anjin” — Episode 1 (Airs February 27) Pictured: Moeka Hoshi as Usami Fuji. CR: Katie Yu/FX
“SHOGUN” — “Anjin” — Episode 1 (Airs February 27) Pictured: Anna Sawai as Toda Mariko. CR: Katie Yu/FX

Aika: I have an easy answer [laughs]. So, in episode 9, I’m credited as an additional editor. I had an opportunity to do a female point-of-view cut. Thomas [Krueger] did an amazing job, and then Justin came to me later in the process and asked me to have a look and add a female point of view to the edit. At that point, episode 8’s intensity had been so high, and episode 9 needed a tweak to get it above that. So, I mainly touched on Mariko’s scenes, including when she’s fighting. A year after our job was finished, I looked back, and the scene in which I felt I contributed the most as a woman and a Japanese woman was Mariko’s fighting scene. That sequence was almost completely recut. The original choreography wasn’t long enough for us to feel like it was as intense as necessary. It felt like it needed more intensity when I watched it, so I tried to make it longer. If you look closely, she throws the naginata (the long staff with a blade at the end), and the guy catches it—that only happened once in the choreography, but if you watch the edit, you see it twice because I’m using the same choreography from different angles to make it seem like the fight was longer. I added Blackthorne and Ochiba watching and a sound layer underneath so that the sequence feels longer and more intense. Then I added Mariko’s scream at the end. I wanted to speak to the female point of view where we want to fight and we have the rebellious spirit. The writers said Mariko has this punk personality [laughs]. I relate to that and the frustration of being a woman and finding a way to fight. I really wanted Mariko to give everything in that scene.

For more on Shogun, check out stories about the lush costume design by Carlos Rosario, the high-tech take on ancient gagaku instrumentation from composers Atticus and Leo Ross and sound engineer Nick Chuba, and the fatally stylish, no-moves-wasted samurai swordplay created by stunt coordinator Lauro David Chartrand-DelValle.

Shogun is streaming now on Hulu.

Featured image: “SHOGUN” — “Crimson Sky” — Episode 9 (Airs April 16) Pictured (C): Anna Sawai as Toda Mariko. CR: Katie Yu/FX

Best of 2024: “Challengers” Screenwriter Justin Kuritzkes on Acing his Zendaya-led Tennis Scorcher

Spoiler Alert: The following article contains spoilers for Challengers.

Back in 2018, playwright and author Justin Kuritzkes was obsessively consuming the world of elite tennis. As the first-time screenwriter conveyed to The Credits, it was better than anything in theaters or on the small screen — tennis was really just that good.

During that year’s U.S. Open match between Naomi Osaka and Serena Williams, a controversial call accused the latter player of receiving coaching from the sidelines. Thus, the nascent seed of what would eventually be Challengers — an unflinching, sexy drama tracing the volatile relationships between three tennis champions — was planted.

“Immediately that struck me as intensely cinematic — that you’re all alone on the court, there’s this person in the massive stadium who cares as much about what happens to you as you do, but you can’t talk to them,” Kuritzkes said in an interview. “And so, how could you have that conversation if you really needed to talk about something important beyond tennis, something that was going on with you guys, and what if it included the person who was across the net?”

Zendaya stars as Tashi in director Luca Guadagnino’s CHALLENGERS. An Amazon MGM Studios film. Photo credit: Niko Tavernise. © 2024 Metro-Goldwyn-Mayer Pictures Inc. All Rights Reserved.

While embarking on research, the writer (who is married to Past Lives director-writer Celine Song, another masterwork unpacking a triangular dynamic) developed a “deep sort of obsession with tennis to the point where I almost didn’t really want to write the movie because I just didn’t want to pollute my fandom of tennis.”

(L to R) Mike Faist as Art, Zendaya as Tashi and Josh O’Connor as Patrick in CHALLENGERS, directed by Luca Guadagnino, a Metro Goldwyn Mayer Pictures film. Credit: Metro Goldwyn Mayer Pictures. © 2023 Metro-Goldwyn-Mayer Pictures Inc. All Rights Reserved.

Kuritzkes began by pouring over the Grand Slam tournaments and Masters events, eventually finding his way to the Challenger tour, an international men’s series in the big leagues, where world-renowned players are often losing money competing for smaller cash prizes. Here, the scribe found compelling the idea of a stage where someone is “the best in the world at something and no one cares” and what it would mean for a player like that to go serve-to-serve with a famous counterpart.

When crafting the film’s nonlinear timeline, Kuritzkes was intentional about its scope, meaning that the arc of the narrative would trace the ups and downs of a professional athlete’s career lifespan. “You’re born when you’re of age, and you die when you’re useless when you’re 35—if you’re lucky,” he explained. “And as an artist, that was really terrifying to me to think about.”

 

The goal was to drop the audience into the final match with an underlying, frenetic layer of “unspoken tension,” which the movie would then unpack through jumps back in time. Because of this, Kuritzkes never considered flashbacks beyond the roughly 13-year period or included other people outside of Zendaya’s Tashi, Josh O’Connor’s Patrick, and Mike Faist’s Art.

“I wanted it to feel really claustrophobic,” he said. “I wanted to feel like the energy between them was so strong that it was almost like they were the only three people that existed in the world.”

Mike Faist stars as Art and Zendaya as Tashi in director Luca Guadagnino’s CHALLENGERS. An Amazon MGM Studios film. Photo credit: Niko Tavernise. © 2024 Metro-Goldwyn-Mayer Pictures Inc. All Rights Reserved.

Challengers, directed by Luca Guadagnino (Oscar-nominated for Call Me By Your Name) and produced by Amy Pascal, serves up an interwoven story of three elite tennis players, led by the indomitable Tashi Duncan, a junior player who is pro tennis’ next big thing. When a career-ending injury alters her path forever, she re-enters the stadium as a coach, eventually training her husband Art, who is facing off against his former childhood best friend and teammate — also Tashi’s ex-boyfriend. What unfolds is an all-consuming decade-long match between the trio on and off the court that stretches the limits of desire, control, and power.

Mike Faist stars as Art and Josh O’Connor as Patrick in director Luca Guadagnino’s CHALLENGERS. An Amazon MGM Studios film. Photo credit: Niko Tavernise. © 2024 Metro-Goldwyn-Mayer Pictures Inc. All Rights Reserved.

“I kept asking myself, ‘What could I write that’s as good as tennis, and what would make tennis even better?’ And for me, the answer would be if I could know what was at stake for every player at each moment in the match,” Kuritzkes said. “Not just what the commentator could tell you on ESPN, but what’s really at stake personally.”

Ultimately, these characters are “three people who are capable of all kinds of things,” and Kuritzkes is hesitant to trap any one person into one villainous caricature or judgment.

“The goal for me is always to write characters that feel as kind and caring and selfish and petty and cruel and sweet and generous to the people I meet in real life,” the writer explained. “And so if you put three characters like that in a triangle together, it’s naturally not always going to look so cozy. But I hope it also doesn’t always look so cold.”

 

Already, the online discourse of the film has skewered Zendaya’s character as heinous and evil, but the reality is that Tashi is a “brilliant person,” Kuritzkes maintained, and the actor herself has defended her as a layered personality, having gone through a major trauma.

“Tashi is this character that’s on track to become a superstar. There’s nothing in her way. She has no real competitors because she’s just so far ahead of the pack,” Kuritzkes said. “And she’s not just supposed to do that for herself, but for her whole family. She’s supposed to really launch everybody who loves her into this new realm, this new way of moving through the world. And she’s known this since she was a little kid and has been working towards that. When that gets taken away from her, it’s a true existential crisis.”

Kuritzkes draws a plain distinction between Tashi’s talent and desires, meaning that her true character is revealed when she’s unwilling to give up the world of tennis despite the possibility that she could try a swing at anything else and succeed.

 

Because of the film’s fluidity in time, its climactic moment almost seems to be the film’s resolution itself. There’s a “love for the game” type of quality to the ending, where all of the players have gotten what they’ve needed; for Kuritzkes, it’s “irrelevant” what happens with the triangle afterward, as the match has, in essence, been played at its most effective caliber.

“I always knew that the movie was over the moment all of their cards were on the table, and the moment they were all, all of the sudden, being completely open with each other, and they were having this conversation on the tennis court that they couldn’t have in their intimate lives,” he said.

In the end, “they’re all playing the best tennis of their lives,” Kuritzkes said, volleying back and forth and communicating freely with one another. He continued, “Tennis was a natural setting for something like that because so much of tennis is about the controlling of energy. It’s an artificial container of life and the chaos of life,” as much as a movie is the same thing, and that seemed like a “natural place to live and to tell a story about love and desire and cruelty and kindness.”

With this debut feature, Kuritzkes said he was grateful to have worked alongside top-tier figures in the industry, from the creatives in front of and behind the camera to the below-the-line talent who brought his vision to life.

“It was really like getting admitted to a film school that you couldn’t pay for if you tried,” he said. “That was an incredible privilege for me as somebody who was really stepping onto a film set for the first time in my life, to be surrounded by these people who are so good at their jobs that they made it possible for me to feel like I could do mine.”

 

Featured image: Josh O’Connor stars as Patrick and Zendaya as Tashi in director Luca Guadagnino’s CHALLENGERS. An Amazon MGM Studios film. Photo credit: Niko Tavernise © 2024 Metro-Goldwyn-Mayer Pictures Inc. All Rights Reserved.

Best of 2024: MPA Creator Award Recipient Writer/Director JA Bayona’s Epic Journey

J.A. Bayona’s Society of the Snow, a reimagining of the real-life 1972 Uruguayan plane crash in the Andes Mountains that caught the world’s attention, is a viscerally astonishing feat of empathetic filmmaking. It was nominated for two Oscars: Best International Feature for Spain and Best Makeup and Hairstyling (Ana López-Puigcerver, David Martí, and Montse Ribé), a sweet coda for a filmmaker who returned to his home country of Spain for the majority of the film’s production.

“I was obsessed with reality and having the actors shooting in real snow in the mountains, in sequence,” Bayona tells us. He found those mountains in the Sierra Nevada region of Spain, which served as a base of operations.

One of the most accomplished filmmakers of his generation, JA Bayona is the Motion Picture Association’s 2024 Creator Award recipient. Bayona is no stranger to ambitious projects—his 2012 film The Impossible was centered on a tourist family in Thailand caught in the catastrophic 2004 Indian Ocean tsunami. His 2016 adaptation of Patrick Ness’s fantasy novel A Monster Calls was a touching, critically acclaimed, visually arresting, and emotionally cathartic family drama. In 2018, he took on the second installment of the Jurassic World franchise, Fallen Kingdom. Yet, taking on a story that’s already been told on film before (Frank Marshall’s 1993 Alive, which featured a largely American cast) and offering something both closer to the truth and populating it with a Spanish-speaking cast primarily from Uruguay and Argentina, was new kind of challenge. 

While Bayona didn’t make his actors film in the Andes, he went there with a team to shoot and get a proper sense of the scale of the South American range, one of the world’s longest. “Shooting in the actual location was impossible—to bring a normal crew to those conditions was out of the equation, but we brought a crew of specialists that spent three weeks shooting all the landscapes of the Andes,” Bayona says. “Then we went to Spain and were scouting for a location that had the same kind of shape in terms of the geography.”

Bayona paid a price for his commitment to accuracy—he got altitude sickness in the Andes—which only deepened his appreciation for what the actual survivors endure. “You really cannot get an idea of what was to be there until you’re there and you experience the mountains and the altitude,” he says. “The first night, I lost a sense of time. I thought I spent the whole night, but when I looked at my watch, it was only an hour and a half that I’d spent in that tent.”

Bayona had to figure out how to tell the story of two dozen passengers who had to figure out a way to survive in the Andes for more than 72 days, narrated largely by Numa (Enzo Vogrincic Roldán), a young man from a conservative, religious family. Society of the Snow is based on Pablo Vierci’s 2009 book of the same name, and Bayona’s approach was to both deeply invest in the specific individuals who boarded that fateful flight and then reveal, with exacting detail, the catastrophe that unfolded and that impossible choices they had to make to survive. Bayona drew on both the book and conversations with the survivors to depict the moments of the crash and life deep in the mountains.

“I like to treat the context [of the crash] as something that will help you to understand the inner process of the character,” he says. “When you think about my movies The Impossible, A Monster Calls, or Society of the Snow, they deal with the moment we get conscious about the uncertainties of living. They deal with how your life can turn upside down in one second, and everything can change. We talk about death in a very straightforward way. I don’t consider these movies to be dark, even though they talk about death, because I always try to look for the light in the darkness. So in that sense, these stories believe in human beings and the better version of ourselves.”

Principal photography in the Sierra Nevadas took place at altitudes that, while not as high as the Andes, were still considerable at around 10,000 feet. Yet there were several distinct advantages of shooting in these conditions, one of which was that it created a natural visual illusion that benefited the story they were telling.

“One of the very few good things about shooting in the snow is that it’s impossible to calculate the distances when you don’t have references because everything is white,” he says. “So it didn’t matter that much that the Sierras are ten times smaller [than the Andes]. In the end, we were able to shoot in quite a high location, around 10,000 feet, and it gave us the perfect geography to do the set extensions, and it was possible to bring the actors to conditions that were similar to the ones the survivors had in the Andes. It was the perfect environment to do the visual effects.”

As Society of the Snow tracks the evolving bond between the survivors, filming in these conditions had a similar, if less potentially deadly, effect.

“I think these environments are great for creating a strong bond with the crew and the actors,” Bayona says. “As a director, you tried to help the performance, and using these conditions in these locations stimulate the performance. If we shoot a sequence in The Impossible in the same hotel where the story happened, that gives a special commitment to not only the crew but especially to the actors and the work they’re doing. I like to create a special environment to help the actors get into the performance.”

Leading a film crew at 10,000 feet was no easy task, and specialized trucks were required to haul cast, crew, and equipment at that altitude. Because the ski resort where they were based remained open, production could only film in the morning and toward the end of the day, the coldest time of any ski day. “It was almost like shooting a documentary, and that was good for the film because it increased this sense of realism that we were looking for,” Bayona says.

That realism was achieved to such a degree that the real survivors had trouble differentiating between what Bayona captured, actual photographs from their rescue, and their memories of the experience.

“They were confused, actually,” he says. “I remember that I showed the real Coche [played by Simon Hempe] a picture of the rescue scene, and he was so shocked because he told me, ‘I didn’t remember I was sitting in this moment.’ And I was like, ‘No, no, that because – that’s not you, that’s the actor. This is a shot from the movie.’ So that was the level of realism that we achieved.”

Society of the Snow – Production Still Image. Courtesy Netflix.

Bayona’s career has been marked by a consistent interest in telling stories about family bonds—those we’re born into and those we create—put to extreme stress tests.

“I like to follow my intuition, especially when I choose a project, so the film becomes a way of this decipher and to understand where the intuition comes from,” Bayona says. “Movies like The Impossible, A Monster Calls, and Society of the Snow come from the very deepest part of your soul, and if you’re able to get there during the process of making the film, I think you’re able to connect with the audience.”

Returning to Spain was especially poignant for a filmmaker who has been filming outside his home country for nearly two decades.

“I had the chance to go back to Spain and shoot in a very different way, where the shooting was more like an exploration,” Bayona says. “And I felt a lot of freedom in looking for what the film was about. The question was, what made these people who they are? It’s kind of complex to explain, I had so many different voices, there were 16 survivors telling the story in the book and they were so different, some of them believe in God, others didn’t. So, to me, it was all about finding the common denominator. By doing that, when you get that deep into the characters who are so different, you get to basically what makes us human. It’s such a big challenge when that’s the goal—it’s like suddenly you find yourself trying to give an answer to questions that these men have been asking themselves for 50 years.”

Answering that question might have been an impossible challenge, but so was what the survivors endured.

“I told the survivors, ‘Listen, you’ve spent 50 years trying to look for an answer to what happened. I have only two and a half years to do this film, so I’ll do my best,’” Bayona recalls. “But it’s interesting that since that goal was impossible, I tried to focus the story from a sensorial, emotional point of view. To me, it was more about bringing the audience into that plane and make them go through the same moments the survivors went through, and by doing so, the audience will ask themselves the same questions the survivors did in the mountains. And that, to me, was much more interesting because it was not giving the answer to the audience, but forcing them to make themselves ask the same questions, which is interesting because, in the end, the film becomes bigger in the mind of the audience. That was the kind of exploration that we proposed to ourselves when we did this film.”

Featured image: JA Bayona on location filming “Society of the Snow.” Courtesy Netflix.

Best of 2024: “Agatha All Along” Creator Jac Schaeffer on Setting off Marvel’s Witching Hour

Agatha All Along creator Jac Schaeffer explores the witchy side of the Marvel Universe just in time for Halloween. The timing of the show’s release is a happy accident for Schaeffer, who also directed the first two episodes. In bringing the titular witch, Agatha (Kathryn Hahn), back from WandaVision, Schaeffer and her team have made a series with a playful spookiness centered on an irresistible Hahn, the dynamo who has been stealing scenes her whole career and found herself in the unexpected starring role on a Marvel Studios series.

(L-R): Kathryn Hahn and Creator/Showrunner/Director/Executive Producer Jac Schaeffer on the set of Marvel Television’s AGATHA ALL ALONG, exclusively on Disney+. Photo by Caleb Heymann. © 2024 MARVEL.

Following the events of WandaVision, Agatha isn’t the powerful witch she once was, having been bested and stripped of her powers by Wanda (Elizabeth Olsen) in the climactic showdown that ended that series. When reintroduced, she’s trapped in her mind and living out a European police procedural. Once she snaps out of the procedural drama and returns to reality, she’s horrified to find herself powerless. With a trusty sidekick, Teen (Joe Locke), she assembles a team of witches for a journey on the arduous, dangerous Witches’ Road to regain her powers.

Schaeffer, who also created WandaVision, introduces new elements in the Marvel universe, spoke with The Credits about her influences for Agatha All Along, building witchcraft mythology, and her sensational cast.

 

In the opening credits, there’s the joke, “Based on the Danish series, Wandavisdysen.” Was that a gag on the page?

The main titles were written into the script; that was always the thing. In fact, the original concept on the page had the skip intro button that you could press, but the idea was that it wouldn’t work because you always get bewitched by main titles if they’re really good. But the idea of it being based on the Danish series was because the editor on that episode, Jamie Gross, used The Killing main titles for a temp before we had made ours. And then when it was time to do ours, I was like, “Well, we have to do it based on the Danish series because that’s what they do in The Killing.” I’ve to say it is one of my top five favorite jokes in the whole show. It really tickles me.

 

WandaVision was a departure from the Marvel aesthetic. Given the world of witchcraft in Agatha All Along, how’d you want to continue to evolve from that style?

From what I’ve witnessed during my time at Marvel, they’re interested in that. They want it all to fit together, but they want each property to have its own distinct style, color, and feeling. There was definitely room for that. The road itself was hard because you don’t want to go too dark. It also went hand in hand with the notion of how scary it is in terms of ages and audience. We were finding a line.

 

Were you inspired by Walt Disney and witches from the Disney library? They weren’t afraid to scare kids, and I’d say the same about your witches.

We did, in a larger sense, of how witches are framed in the older Disney canon, the binary of the princess and the evil witch. So, that definitely factored into our early ideating because the whole show is an examination of what it means to be a witch in terms of the stereotype and then what it means authentically. But that’s lovely that you felt that. I would also guess that that also has to do with the practical side of it. There’s a real texture to the show. At least for me, seeing the witches in the real environment has that Grimm’s fairy tale essence to it.

Salem Seven in Marvel Television’s AGATHA ALL ALONG, exclusively on Disney+. Photo courtesy of Marvel Television. © 2024 MARVEL.

Did you and your visual effects supervisor, Kelly Port, always want to use as many practical effects as possible?

Early on, we were like, “This is not a CGI show,” and Kelly wanted that as well. It was Mary Livanos’, the executive producer, idea. Our touchstones were everything from The Wizard of Oz through The NeverEnding Story, Dark Crystal, The Craft, and The Witches of Eastwick. We were already in this zone, which then became a point of pride for us. It also has an added layer, this discovery where we were like, “Agatha’s power has been taken from her. No power for Agatha, no CG for the show.” It felt aligned with the Marvel ethos.

 

In the pilot, did you want the house fight scene between Agatha and Rio (Aubrey Plaza) to really set the tone for the action ahead in the series?

Yes. It’s a Marvel show, so there is always a burden for action and some level of violence that is part of the Marvel universe. It’s not something that I always wrote before coming to Marvel. That wasn’t where my mind always went. Although I guess sci-fi is always where I’m at, and there’s always going to be some sort of action in a sci-fi story. But what we were trying to convey with that sequence is the fact that Agatha is powerless. She’s got no blasts and no telekinesis, and if she has no telepathy, then it’s fisticuffs, right? It’s going to be nails and teeth and hair. Also, the relationship between Agatha and Rio is so intimate and so charged that we wanted this close-quarters fight that indicated that they’re at each other’s throats, but also maybe want to make out. We wanted that froth at the top of the show.

Rio Vidal (Aubrey Plaza) in Marvel Television’s AGATHA ALL ALONG, exclusively on Disney+. Photo courtesy of Marvel Television. © 2024 MARVEL.

As someone with an independent background, how do you want to bring an indie spirit to a production as big as Agatha All Along?

When I hear indie, what that means to me is that we have a “we can solve this” attitude. Give me a pack of gum and a match, and I’ll figure this out. It’s a concert! Just kidding, it’s a public restroom. Even at the Marvel scale, there will be a million things you’re told you can’t have, and then you have to make it work. I think the other indie spirit sensibility is the centering of POVs that don’t normally get the spotlight. It’s certainly the case for this show. All I want to do is tell the stories of women, women from all places and of all ages and all circumstances. And so, that’s part of what I brought to this.

(L-R): Patti LuPone, Sasheer Zamata, Creator/Showrunner/Director/Executive Producer Jac Schaeffer, Kathryn Hahn, Joe Locke, Debra Jo Rupp, and Ali Ahn on the set of Marvel Television’s AGATHA ALL ALONG, exclusively on Disney+. Photo by Chuck Zlotnick. © 2024 MARVEL.

You have great “getting the band together” sequences, like in a classic heist movie. How did you want to define those women as quickly and as substantially as possible?

You’ve nailed it. It is so challenging, but that is the goal. I love heist movies. I love Oceans 11 so much. The economy with which 11 characters are introduced, holy moly, masterclass. Agatha and Teen pick up three characters and a fourth. It’s technically a half-hour show, maybe a little bit longer, but there’s limited real estate. So it is not only the words on the page, it is the casting, which is vital. Ninety percent of your job is done if you cast the right people. Then, it’s the wardrobe, and [costume designer] Daniel Selon’s work did so much to enhance and to create a shorthand for who these characters are. And then, of course, John Collins’ production design. Each space tells a story and establishes the beginning of a thread that will follow throughout the show.

(L-R): Teen (Joe Locke), Jennifer Kale (Sasheer Zamata), Alice Wu-Gulliver (Ali Ahn), Lilia Calderu (Patti LuPone), Agatha Harkness (Kathryn Hahn), and Rio Vidal (Aubrey Plaza) in Marvel Television’s AGATHA ALL ALONG, exclusively on Disney+. Photo by Chuck Zlotnick. © 2024 MARVEL.

Did you and the writers now have a book of rules for all the witchcraft in the show?

The notes from the room would melt your brain. Because this character has very little presence in the comics, we were originating from scratch a lot of who she is, and then we were assigned the task of defining witchcraft in the MCU. What classic notion of witches do we want to carry forward? How do we want to innovate? What are the ways in which Marvel witches are different? Then, we put them in an environment that required an enormous amount of world-building and rules. Then, because they are on a mission, how do we paint them into a corner over and over again and then get them out of it? Yeah, I’m tired just remembering all of that [Laughs].

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Featured image: (L-R): Creator/Showrunner/Director/Executive Producer Jac Schaeffer and Kathryn Hahn on the set of Marvel Television’s AGATHA ALL ALONG, exclusively on Disney+. Photo by Chuck Zlotnick. © 2024 MARVEL.

Best of 2024: “Wicked” Director Jon M. Chu Takes Us Behind the Curtain of His Gravity-Defying Adaptation

This interview was selected by measures having nothing to do with science as one of our standouts from 2024. This was one of the easier selections—Chu’s sensational adaptation managed to delight mega-fans of the Broadway juggernaut as well as newbies freshly dazzled by the story of Elphaba, Glinda, and the ramifications of their epic friendship. 

Spoilers aplenty!

Black hat seated atop her head, Elphaba (Cynthia Erivo) peers around the corner of the Ozdust ballroom, excited to attend her first party ever.

She tentatively takes her first steps down the stairs, silhouette illuminated by the spotlight, when the music suddenly halts and her peers begin to laugh.

The excitement quickly drains from her face as she realizes that the acceptance she so desperately craved did not come. Once again, she is alone.

We watch as she makes her way toward the center of the room, her expression changing from wide-eyed wonder to hardened resilience.

She places her hat down on the ground and begins to dance.

“When Cynthia came in, as she learned some of the movements, she found that, ‘Oh, my movements are different,’” says Wicked Director Jon M. Chu. “This is what I think Elphaba would do. Instead of being something funny that she does [like the stage production], the choice of hey, she needs to find her space, and how she finds her space… And how defiant is it?”

Moments later, Glinda (Ariana Grande) will join Elphaba in her dance in what is arguably one of the most pivotal moments in the film. She steps out — timid at first, until eventually, she and Elphaba gather momentum. Smiling at one another they move fluidly, tears streaming down Elphaba’s face, her eyes disclosing her pain.

Center L to R: Cynthia Erivo (as Elphaba), Director Jon M. Chu, and Ariana Granda (as Glinda) on the set of WICKED

“The decision to play it in silence without music was very scary, and we debated that many times,” says Chu. “But when you look at Cynthia, that uncomfortable feeling that you get to be in her shoes, that was really hard to shoot.”

Filming this scene with no sound, and virtually any dialogue, forces viewers to fully internalize the awkwardness and to absorb Elphaba’s pain. It causes viewers to question if their own actions would have been as brave.

To capture the heartbreaking nature of this scene required a delicate balance of vulnerability from the actors, precise camera angles and proper lighting. Chu says there were “700 lighting cues” and each one was filmed “one take at a time.”

“We could not just cut into it, because the emotions were just too heavy,” he explains. “And so every time our camera goes around, we’re doing 360, lights have to come on and off so we don’t get camera shadow and we could still see [Elphaba’s] eyes.”

Cynthia Erivo is Elphaba in WICKED, directed by Jon M. Chu

“I love that she is surrendering to who she is, and that hat isn’t a dunce cap for her,” Chu says. “It’s actually a real sort of spiritual connection. So when she puts it on, it is an acceptance of who she is, no matter what that is.”

L to R: Cynthia Erivo (as Elphaba) and Ariana Grande (as Glinda) with Director Jon M. Chu on the set of WICKED.

The beauty of Wicked is that yes, it is a fairytale, the heart of which is about friendship. But beyond that, it is a story that dissects the true meaning of evil, jam-packed with powerful political messaging that Chu beautifully interweaves whilst maintaining the magical and whimsical nature of the world. The beauty of using film as a medium is that it’s able to add depth and nuance to characters that are already beloved by so many.

“It’s a timeless tale of what happens when you feel oppressed, or what happens when you feel out of place or different,” Chu explains. “When you have Cynthia singing the words to ‘Defying Gravity,’ even though we’ve heard it many, many times — it sounds different coming from her. It means different. She’s exposing different wounds.”

 

Amidst moments of raw vulnerability, there are also moments of pure joy. One of the most viral, cinematic feats of Chu’s Wicked is the giant musical number, “What is This Feeling?” Filmed with various settings, costume changes, sweeping transitions and hundreds of extras, it’s pure creative genius.

“We start with, ‘Ok, what do we need to communicate in this song that this stage show can’t?’” Chu explains of the scene’s conception. “One, we have to do a passage of time… Two, we had to show the jealousy and the actual superpowers… Then, what’s happening at the school? And we also had to talk about ‘Dancing Through Life.’ If Shiz University students have a certain style of dancing that has certain angles and a certain sharpness, and ‘Dancing Through Life’ is going to break that…Then ‘What is this Feeling?’ establishes what Shiz is at this point that we’re going to break later.”

Of all the musical numbers, “What is This Feeling?” is perhaps the most expository. It helps establish the initially fraught relationship between Glinda and Elphaba, and immerses viewers into life at Shiz.

“‘Oh, this is what gym class looks like at Shiz? That’s so cool.’” Chu continues. “‘Oh, what about science class? What about this class? And then [choreographer] Chris [Scott] goes with his team and they create movement for all those things. And then we start shooting that on my iPhone, and we start cutting together a piece through our rehearsals and through storyboards of what it’s going to feel like, and then we start shooting it.”

In the nearly two years it took to film Wicked, Chu says his actors truly immersed themselves in their characters.

“Ari was Glinda for that period of time and so was Cynthia — they might still be a little bit of those people.”

At times, their reactions in certain scenes during filming surprised him. In “No One Mourns the Wicked,” the film’s opening musical number, Glinda is forced to watch as the Munchkinlanders celebrate the death of her once dear friend, and then force her to burn the effigy.

“I did not expect when [Ariana] saw this effigy on fire that she would break down just as a person watching it,” he says. “And I had to continue to tell her like, ‘I don’t think we can go there yet. This is the beginning of the movie. People don’t know. Let’s hide it as much as you can. You are trying to help these Munchkins. You love them.’ And so her restraint in that and trying to keep it in, I think that’s the fight that we’re watching there. And she does such a brilliant job of not showing it too early, really because she’s good at it. But at a certain point she can’t hide it… And she does such a great job walking that fine line of both the comedy, but also those little inches of guilt.”

As Chu settles into post-production for part two of Wicked, set to be released in November of 2025, he shares only mild teasers.

“I have said in the past that if movie one’s about choices, movie two is about the consequences,” he says. “The question of what happens when the home that you love and you’re trying to protect doesn’t want you anymore? Is that a home?”

As Oscar buzz begins circulating around Erivo, Grande and Chu himself, he says he is content with “whatever happens” when it comes to awards.

“We had a responsibility to the Wizard of Oz, to this legacy, to Wicked and to Kristin [Chenoweth] and Idina [Menzel], and I think that that’s what we’re most proud of,” he says. “And whatever happens may happen in the future, but if it were up to me, they deserve it all for how hard everyone worked and how detailed everything had to be.”

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Featured image: Center L to R: Cynthia Erivo (as Elphaba), Director Jon M. Chu, and Ariana Granda (as Glinda) on the set of WICKED

Christopher Nolan’s Next Film Revealed as Adaptation of “The Odyssey”

The wait to find out what Christopher Nolan’s next film would be about is over. Universal revealed that Nolan’s next film is an adaptation of Homer’s deathless epic poem The Odyssey, which tracks the trials and tribulations of Odysseus as he attempts to return home after the Trojan War, only to have his way blocked by impetuous gods and goddesses.

“Christopher Nolan’s next film, The Odyssey, is a mythic action epic shot across the world using brand new IMAX film technology,” said the studio. “The film brings Homer’s foundational saga to IMAX film screens for the first time and opens in theaters everywhere on July 17, 2026.”

Nolan’s already attracted another star-studded cast, which is de rigueur for him at this point of his career. Matt Damon, Tom Holland, Zendaya, Robert Pattinson, Lupita Nyong’o, Anne Hathaway, and Charlize Theron are all already on board. 

Period pics are not new to Nolan, of course, whose last film for Universal, Oppenheimer, was a massive critical and commercial success, earning Nolan both Best Picture and Best Director Oscars, with a slew of statues going around to his collaborators, too, including Cillian Murphy for Best Actor. He also directed The Prestige for Universal in 2006, an adaptation of Christopher Priest’s novel about rival magicians in 1890s London.

However, the Odyssey will be the most historic of Nolan’s historical films, considering Homer’s poem dates back to the 8th century BC and deals with monsters, gods, goddesses, bloody feasts and feral men. Homer’s epic has been adapted before, famously with Kirk Douglass leading Ulysses in 1954, and has inspired countless movies, including the Coen brothers’ 2000 film O Brother, Where Art Thou. 

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Featured image: Writer, director, and producer Christopher Nolan on the set of OPPENHEIMER. Courtesy Melinda Sue Gordon/Universal Pictures.

Best of 2024: “My Old Ass” Writer/Director Megan Park on Magic, Mushrooms, and Meeting Yourself

In Megan Park’s wide-eyed, warm-as-the-waning-summer-evenings sophomore feature, My Old Ass, time itself is a trip. 

When Elliott (Maisy Stella) ushers in her 18th birthday with a camping excursion à la psilocybin-laced mushrooms, the last thing she expects is her psyche to conjure up an “old ass” version of herself (at 39 years old), portrayed by Aubrey Plaza. With her last summer in the picturesque lakeside town of Muskoka, Canada, before she heads off to the University of Toronto, Elliott must tread the warnings of her future self, all while rethinking her misconceptions about love, family, and relationships.

For Park, who conceived of the film following her critically acclaimed debut The Fallout — about the intimate relationship that blossoms between two high schoolers (Jenna Ortega and Maddie Ziegler, also in My Old Ass) in the wake of a mass shooting — the aim was to follow in the tradition of the movies she grew up adulating, from the comparable time-warping 13 Going on 30 to the Robin Williams classic Mrs. Doubtfire.

“I was selfishly making a movie that I wanted to watch, that I wanted to make, and I was hopeful that other people would like it too,” Park says. “But at the end of the day, this is just very personal to me, and subjects that I want to explore, and I want to make a really earnest, feel-good, heartfelt movie that does wear its heart on its sleeve. It’s a North Star for me as a filmmaker now.”

Maisy Stella as Elliott in My Old Ass Photo: MARNI GROSSMAN © AMAZON CONTENT SERVICES LLC

And while the 38-year-old Park — who is perhaps most recognizable as one of the stars of ABC’s late-aughts soapy teen drama The Secret Life of the American Teenager — created My Old Ass for all the various iterations of herself, from her childhood days in Canada to her nostalgia-tinged understanding of new motherhood (she and her husband Tyler Hilton have two children), it’s a film that has resonated across the board.

“I keep joking,” she said, “the amount of old men that love this movie is so surprising, but it’s true! I was at a couple of screenings yesterday, and these very sweet men in their 70s and 80s were coming up to me like, ‘This is my favorite movie I’ve ever seen.’ I’m like, ‘What?’”

Park discusses the inspiration behind the film and being egoless in crafting a narrative that centers young people’s experiences.

 

You’ve talked before about how making this film is somewhat corrective to the way young people have been portrayed in the past when you were acting. What was that process like for you, approaching the main character and conveying this authenticity that can sometimes be missing?

I was not trying to make a movie about young people, which I think inherently helps. I was trying to tell a human story. I think a lot of people talk down to younger people and don’t give them the credit that they deserve. So I take that very seriously. For many years, when I was acting at that age, I was playing young people, and I was like, “I would never say this, and this does not feel real. I would never wear this. This doesn’t feel authentic in any way to my experience or anyone that I know.” So I try to create, now, an environment, at the very least on set, that’s like, there’s an opportunity for young actors to speak up and say that, and I try to include them in the process.

Can you give me an example from the film?

The Bieber moment (author’s note: the film includes a trip-induced Justin Bieber-inspired montage set to “One Less Lonely Girl”) is a great example. I was talking to Maisy, “What was that moment? What was that concert for you? Who was that artist who really spoke to you?” I think being egoless is the sense where you know what you know but also know what you don’t know and are collaborative and open-minded. I think that’s not only when you create the best art but also when you create the most authentic environment and, hopefully, experience.

How much would you say this film reflects your current self, during the pandemic and in a new era as a mom, and your old self, spending summers in Lake Muskoka?

Definitely, being home in Canada [was part of it.] I didn’t grow up right in Muskoka, but close to there, and I spent my summers there, going to camp there, and [I] went to cottages. And I was like, ‘Gosh, why was I in such a hurry to leave this beautiful place?’ Sometimes, I’m very lucky to have grown up in a place that now I go back to, like, ‘This is so beautiful. I can’t believe I was raised here,’ so there was definitely a part of that for me. It’s not my life story—like, I was not Elliott. I was a very different person at that age. But there’s a part of me in each one of these characters, but I would say, as I was writing, I definitely related more to the “old ass,” older Elliott at this point in my life. But they’re also totally imaginary people. It’s such a weird combination.

Elliott (Maisy Stella) and Kath (Maria Dizzia) in MY OLD ASS Photo: Marni Grossman/Prime Video © AMAZON CONTENT SERVICES LLC

To that end, how did you approach the casting process?

We cast Maisy first. As soon as I saw Maisy, I was like, “Oh, she is Elliott and more.” And so that was a really easy decision, and then it was great because we got to cast every single person in the movie around Maisy, which was so incredible, and she chemistry read with every single character, except for Aubrey, because we knew they were going to have amazing chemistry. It was really important to build it around her, and I think that’s part of why it feels so organic. 

What about casting Maddie Ziegler as Ruthie?

Maisy and Maddie Ziegler have been best friends since they were eight years old, and Kerrice [who plays their friend Ro] — they all just kind of fell in love with each other. Having her and Percy [Hynes White] read together was really important as well. Percy was a local Toronto kid, who I didn’t know who he was, and he just sent in a self-tape, and we were all so charmed. Their chemistry was so instantaneous as well. Both Maisy and I adored Aubrey’s work and are huge fans. And then, as soon as I talked to her, I was like, “Oh, she just gets this,” and she is such the tone of the movie, and all the pieces fell together. As soon as they met in person, they hit it off and just really adored each other, which was very sweet to see unfold in real-time. Their humor is very similar, which is awesome.

Kerrice Brooks as Ro, Maisy Stella as Elliott, and Maddie Ziegler as Ruthie in My Old Ass Photo: COURTESY OF AMAZON STUDIOS © AMAZON CONTENT SERVICES LLC

The movie is so tonally wide-ranging. Did adding Maisy’s mushroom trip feel like a critical puzzle piece for you in terms of the believability of this concept?

I wanted it to be a buy-in, but it also had to be a buy-in that felt really grounded and real. So the mushrooms — I don’t know where I thought of it, but I was thinking, if you’re 18, it’s your birthday, it’s your last summer. You’re in Canada, you’re camping with your friends. And [it’s] like, “Yeah.” Once that clicked, it also allowed you to really kind of be like, “Did that happen? Did that not happen?” So the mushrooms [were] a really important thing to get right. We talked about 13 Going on 30 and Mrs. Doubtfire and The Parent Trap — all these movies where the buy-in has to work, and you have to love these characters and these people, and then you don’t really care. You’re just along for the ride. And that was important to get right. The mushrooms just seemed like a perfect fit.

Elliott (Maisy Stella) and Ro (Kerrice Brooks) in MY OLD ASS Photo: Marni Grossman/Prime Video © AMAZON CONTENT SERVICES LLC

The film tackles large, conceptual life concepts, like grief and relationships in a refreshingly earnest way. Is that something you were thinking about as you wrote it?

We wanted to make something earnest. And I think a lot of people don’t think that’s cool?

Yes!

I f—ing love movies like that. Those are the movies that I grew up on. They inspired me so much as an actor, as a human, and as a filmmaker. And I think earnest movies are — yeah, they’re not on trend right now, but I would love them to be, and they’re timeless, hopefully. I want to continue to make really earnest movies, and that was super important to me. as I was writing it, I wanted to tackle those big subject matters but have people hopefully be able to laugh while they’re crying at the same time.

Can you discuss how Amazon MGM and Margot Robbie’s LuckyChap [production company] got involved? I know you have more projects in the pipeline with them.

There’s a reason that they get so much repeat business at LuckyChap with their directors. They’re really, really incredible producers and so, so easy to work with. They have so much trust in their filmmakers, but they’re also really helpful. So it was such a smooth sailing experience that I was like, “Let’s do everything together.” And luckily, they feel the same, which has been really exciting.

Did you pitch them?

They connected after they saw The Fallout and just said, “Do you have any other ideas?” And I just had a very loose logline for this movie, and they said, “We love that. Can we develop it together?” So we put the pitch together and made it with our partners at Indian Paintbrush, and it was such a smooth, incredible process. And then we took it to Sundance [in January] and found our home at Amazon, and it was just such a perfect fit. They really loved the movie. It was so genuine, you could really feel that from them, and they really understood what it was and how to get it to the right audience, and knew how important it was for us to have it out in theaters, and it’s the type of movie that you want to sit in a theater and experience with other people. 

With the theater component, there was the Cinespia screening, and there’s such a campfire, cozy, openness, and Gen Z undercurrent to the movie in terms of also dealing with sexuality. Could you speak to any of your favorite moments?

There were so many moments that felt that way. Everyone comes back to me with a different moment that spoke to them in that way, which is really exciting. And it definitely feels like a movie to laugh with a group of people, and to cry with a group of people in a theater setting is really special. What I think is also really cool is it does feel like a movie that you can go see on a date, with your friends, or with your parents. 

 

This interview has been edited and condensed for concision and clarity.

My Old Ass is in select theaters now.

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Featured image: Maisy Stella and Aubrey Plaza in My Old Ass. Courtesy AmazonMGM.

Best of 2024: “Inside Out 2” Writer Meg LeFauve on the Power of Adolescent Anxiety

*This interview was selected by measures having nothing to do with science as one of our standouts from 2024. Inside Out 2 co-writer Meg LeFavue, along with scribe Dave Holstein, managed to deliver an immensely satisfying, often surprising sequel to one of the most unique animated films in Pixar’s long, rich history.

Inside Out earned its co-writer Meg LeFauve a Best Screenplay Oscar nomination en route to becoming 2015’s seventh-highest-grossing movie. Last weekend, Inside Out 2 hit the box office jackpot again. Directed by Kelsey Mann, the Pixar sequel opened with $295 million worldwide by animating the emotional roller coaster experienced by 13-year-old Riley (voiced by Kensington Tallman) when she enters puberty amid an avalanche of new feelings. Joy (Amy Poehler) tries to maintain a semblance of normality with her sidekicks: Sadness (Phyllis Smith), Anger (Lewis Black), Fear (Tony Hale), and Disgust (Liza Lapira). But when Riley goes to hockey camp and gets the chance to hang with older, cooler girls led by Valentina (Lilimar Hernandez), she becomes overwhelmed by Anxiety (Maya Hawke), Ennui (Adèle Exarchopoulos), Envy (Ayo Edebiri) and Embarrassment (Paul Walter Hauser).

Speaking from her Studio City home in Los Angeles, LeFauve, who co-wrote the sequel with Dave Holstein, de-constructs the big emotions that wreak havoc on Inside Out 2’s heroine and pulls back the curtain on Pixar’s famously meticulous story-building process.

 

It was a stroke of high-strung genius to introduce Anxiety as Inside Out 2‘s lead disrupter. It’s a feeling well-suited to adolescence in particular and, more generally, to the times we’re living in right now. How did Anxiety emerge as the dominant emotion once Riley hits puberty?

Our director Kelsey Mann pitched [executive producer] Pete Docter the idea to bring in Anxiety and make Riley thirteen. Kelsey had a very personal connection to that [emotion] in terms of his own childhood, and Pete really liked the idea. Then I came on, and we did a ton of research about anxiety. The script changed many times, but Anxiety was always going to be predominant.

 

Besides all the research, did you also draw on your own experiences as a teenager?

My dad used to call me Moody Meg. I was a very emotional child, and I was really bad at hiding it. What I didn’t understand at the time is that when I started coming online as an artist and writer, imagination land was getting bigger: The tap is turned on, but what do you do with it? Well, anxiety says, “I know what to do: let’s just tap into that imagination and start projecting what could possibly go wrong!” So I became very good at that. I was a worry wart. My grandfather used to say, “You have early grey hair. You worry so much.” But it’s just because your imagination is being funneled through anxiety. You want to feel safe because everything feels so disjointed. “What’s happening to me?!”

MEET ANXIETY — Disney and Pixar’s “Inside Out 2” returns to the mind of newly minted teenager Riley just as a new Emotion shows up unexpectedly. And Anxiety, voiced by Maya Hawke, isn’t the type of Emotion who will take a back seat either. Directed by Kelsey Mann and produced by Mark Nielsen, “Inside Out 2” releases only in theaters Summer 2024. © 2023 Disney/Pixar. All Rights Reserved.

The movie opens with Riley as a happy 12-year-old. Then she falls asleep, and literally overnight, Riley wakes up yelling at her mom and acting like a cranky teenager now that the frizzy-haired Anxiety has taken over her brain.

Anxiety comes on pretty hard, and it sure feels like it happens overnight both when you are that [teenager] person and again when you have a kid: “Wait a minute, who just walked down for breakfast today? Holy smokes!”

Do you have kids?

Two boys, twenty and eighteen now, but they were teenagers when I was writing the script. It’s that time in your life when your parents, brothers, and sisters recede in importance. Your sense of self starts moving into friend groups. You become self-conscious. It’s a very intense time, and we wanted to capture that.

 

When Anxiety takes over Riley’s brain, she’s accompanied by Ennui, Envy, and Embarrassment. How did you connect with these new emotions of adolescence?

Well, I mostly relate to ennui when raising teenagers because—the eye-rolling! I’m sure I did a lot of eye-rolling when I was a teenager, but boy, when you’re a parent, you really feel that one.

 

Then there’s Envy. 

The truth is that Envy tells you what you want. It’s good to tap into that because it’s a way of knowing yourself and being aware of yourself.

INSIDE OUT 2 – FEELING ENVY – In Disney and Pixar’s “Inside Out 2,” Envy may be small, but she sure knows what she wants. She’s perpetually jealous of everything everyone else has, and she’s not afraid to pine over it. Envy’s wishful thinking and fascination with the newest, coolest thing pulls her attention in all directions and longs for what Riley doesn’t have. Featuring Ayo Edebiri as the voice of Envy, “Inside Out 2” releases only in theaters June 14, 2024. © 2024 Disney/Pixar. All Rights Reserved.

And Embarrassment?

Come on! If Embarrassment is the biggest emotion, just like he is on the screen. And the idea that Embarrassment doesn’t talk because…he’s embarrassed. He was fun to write.

NEW EMOTIONS — Disney and Pixar’s “Inside Out 2” returns to the mind of newly minted teenager Riley just as new Emotions show up. Embarrassment (voice of Paul Walter Hauser), Anxiety (voice of Maya Hawke), Envy (voice of Ayo Edebiri) and Ennui (voice of Adèle Exarchopoulos) are ready to take a turn at the console. Directed by Kelsey Mann and produced by Mark Nielsen, “Inside Out 2” releases only in theaters June 14, 2024. © 2024 Disney/Pixar. All Rights Reserved.

SPOILER

The original Inside Out established the basic architecture of Riley’s brain—spheres of memory, pneumatic tubes to transport long-term memories, and the control board where emotions gather. This time, Joy and her gang encounter The Vault, Mount Crushmore, and other new features. How did you approach the new design elements?

I loved Kelsey’s idea of the wrecking ball, that [puberty] can feel like you’re going to pieces. And it was tremendous fun to work with Pixar artists throwing all these wonderful ideas about where we could go. My job as the writer was to make sure it all fits into Joy’s journey because her character movement creates the structure, everything she realizes about herself and, therefore, about Riley and her relationship with Anxiety.

BELIEF SYSTEM – Sadness (voice of Phyllis Smith) and Joy (voice of Amy Poehler) deliver key memories to this formative land. “Inside Out 2” releases only in theaters June 14, 2024. © 2024 Disney/Pixar. All Rights Reserved.

In Riley’s inner world, all roads lead to Joy?

There were days when I wondered, “Who came up with this rule that we have to follow?” Oh, right, don’t worry—that was me. We could always go into fun worlds, but I need to know why we’re there for Joy. The other emotions have moments that help Joy see something because her belief system is changing.

JOY AND ANXIETY — Featuring the voices of Amy Poehler as Joy and Maya Hawke as Anxiety, “Inside Out 2” releases only in theaters Summer 2024.© 2023 Disney/Pixar. All Rights Reserved.

Meanwhile, in Riley’s world, all the kids are pretty nice. Did you want to avoid mean-girl villains?

Kelsey clearly didn’t want to do Mean Girls—by the way, I love that movie—but we worked very hard to ensure there were no mean girls here. And I love the idea of the girl crush.

SPOILER

With Riley idolizing the older hockey star Valentina. . .

I think that’s a real thing because you want to be that girl. Yet Val cares a lot about Riley; she’s the one reaching out and telling her friends, “Come on, give her a break.” That was very intentional.

Toward the end of the big hockey game, Riley scores goals, but she’s haunted by this inner voice saying, “I’m not good enough.” What’s that about?

The thinking was that anxiety can drive you to do things that look like success to the outside world. You can get the goal, you can get the money, and you can get the big job title. But [at this point in the movie] Riley’s not playing hockey for the joy of it; she’s playing hockey to impress other people. It’s not about, “I love this,” but “Will they accept me?” That does happen in adolescence, and trust me, there were moments at Pixar [meetings] where I was like, “Wait a minute, feel your feet, Meg, because your sense of self is moving outside of yourself. Go back to the story. Get back to your body.” It’s normal to want other people to view you a certain way, but it’s important to remember joy and self-compassion. 

You mention Pixar, which is well known for rigorous story-building methods. Did you enjoy being part of that process?

You get a lot of notes. You get a lot of hard questions. But everybody knows it’s all in service of the story because Pixar is about iterations, about letting go, and allowing things to blow up, especially in the early stages, about being brave and starting over. Our executive producer, Pete Docter, is a genius who created all of this [the Inside Out universe] to begin with, so if you want new emotions, you go to Pete and ask why these emotions, where they come from, how they help the journey of the characters. So yes, there’s that rigor. At the same time, Pixar wants you on the edge, trying things and learning from failure. For example, we had Shame in the movie for a long time as an antagonist, but it just didn’t feel right to Kelsey. As much as Shame gave us, it took too much away. So we went back to just Anxiety as the center.

You had to address feedback not just from Pixar creatives but also from a group of nine teenagers called Riley’s Crew, who watched early versions of the film. What was it like getting notes from a 14-year-old?

It was amazing! First of all, they came so prepared. They brought notes, and they wanted to talk about what they liked, which people always forget to do. They were really direct about what didn’t work, which was incredibly helpful.

You started working on Inside Out 2 in pre-pandemic 2020 and attended the red carpet premiere just a few days ago. How do you look back on this deep immersion in the world of teen emotions?

It’s been a privilege to be part of these movies that have rippled into the world. Having people talk to you about how they see themselves and how they see their kids so that we don’t feel so alone—to me, that’s what storytelling is all about.

 Inside Out 2 is in theaters now.

 

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Featured image: EXPANDED HEADQUARTERS — Disney and Pixar’s “Inside Out 2” returns to the mind of newly minted teenager Riley, where headquarters expands to make room for new Emotions. Pictured from L-R: Joy (voice of Amy Poehler), Embarrassment (voice of Paul Walter Hauser), Envy (voice of Ayo Edebiri), Anxiety (voice of Maya Hawke), Disgust (voice of Liza Lapira), Anger (voice of Lewis Black), Fear (voice of Tony Hale) and Sadness (voice of Phyllis Smith). Directed by Kelsey Mann and produced by Mark Nielsen, “Inside Out 2” releases only in theaters June 14, 2024. © 2024 Disney/Pixar. All Rights Reserved.

Oscar-Nominated “Elvis” Producer Schuyler Weiss on What’s Right About Korea’s Filmmaking Industry

Schuyler Weiss is not long back to his home on Australia’s Gold Coast and so he is still mulling over the takeaways from his trip to the 29th Busan International Film Festival when he sits down to talk. The experience certainly sounds like an eye-opener.

The Oscar-nominated producer of Baz Luhrmann’s Elvis was making his first visit to South Korea for the event – which bills itself as Asia’s largest film festival and which ran from October 2-11. He was on hand to join a panel that discussed the launch of Frontier Economics’ MPA-supported research paper Policy + The Rise of K-Content 2024 while also taking part in workshops hosted by both the Chanel x Busan International Film Festival Asian Film Academy (BAFA) and the Korean Academy of Film Arts (KAFA).

Schuyler Weiss at the Busan International Film Festival

Those roles allowed Weiss to tap into trends within the Korean film industry while lending his own experience – and talent – to initiatives that look to unearth new generations of movie-makers from across the region.

Weiss says the trip was both refreshing and exhilarating, and the onus is on him now to spread what he has learned among his peers while putting what he learned into practice in his role as managing director at the Gold Coast-based Bazmark studio, where he also works with Luhrmann and his creative partner Catherine Martin as a producing partner.

There’s also the looming release of the Weiss-produced feature How To Make Gravy, set for a December 1 release on Binge and based on a song by the iconic Australian musician Paul Kelly that has, since its release in 1996, grown to become the country’s unofficial Christmas anthem.

 

As we chat via video call, it becomes quickly apparent that BIFF has left Weiss inspired and also introspective in comparing the fortunes of the industry he witnessed in South Korea, and the one he helps drive back home.

 

How was your first trip to Busan, and what have you been thinking about since returning to the Gold Coast?

I thought it was fantastic. It was fabulous to see this for the Korean industry, of course, but really Asia-wide, it felt like such a magnet for the whole industry, and I was embarrassed to be one of the few Australians because, you know, everybody seems to turn up for it and I thought that the loss was entirely ours. Australia and South Korea have a co-production treaty. I understand it’s been used zero times. I haven’t drilled into the details, but whatever the benefits of that reciprocity are, investigating them is a new goal of mine.

What were your key takeaways regarding the panel on the Policy + The Rise of K-Content 2024 paper?

Well, what didn’t surprise me was the finding that restrictive government policy on quotas and that kind of thing end up being counterproductive and actually lower the tone of the whole industry, but supportive policies and supportive investment while also being open to international content at the same time is a winning formula. That’s something that I believe, too. I think that international production and domestic production can help each other. We can stand on the shoulders of a lot of international activity. But there doesn’t seem to be a clear direction on that [in Korea], which surprised me.

A workshop at the Busan International Film Festival

What else did you learn about the nature of the Korean market?

It isn’t so much directly connected to government policy, but I hadn’t realized Korea was still very much a movie-going place, and 50 percent of what they go to see in the movie theaters are Korean films. In Australia, that rate is about seven percent.  I don’t even know how to begin to learn from that yet, but I want to because I want to understand what they might be doing that we’ ‘re not doing. Is it just that they’re making better stuff? Or what cultural circumstances might we be able to emulate, whether in Australia or abroad? I think Korea is a real beacon for how to preserve your content creation.

In your experience, what have been the benefits of Australia’s incentive schemes?

I think they have impacted the facilities that we have and are continually building, as well as the crew’s skills. Having just gone from making a big production that is absolutely an Australian movie, in Elvis – it was written by Australians, directed by Australians, yeah, but nonetheless, it is a Hollywood job, too – going from that to making a small movie like How to Make Gravy which is a small-budget, independent Australian film with a first-time director, I was very much aware that. We had people on the crew who have the experience of these huge movies, and they’re bringing that experience to bear on our plucky little film and eager to do so not just because the big Hollywood movies helped pay the mortgage but also because they were just excited. They’re Australians. They’re excited to work on something local and elevate the movie.

Caption: AUSTIN BUTLER as Elvis in Warner Bros. Pictures’ drama “ELVIS,” a Warner Bros. Pictures release. Photo Credit: Courtesy of Warner Bros. Pictures

Can more be done?

I think sometimes, amongst the producing community in Australia, there’s a bit of a zero-sum fallacy about international productions somehow cannibalizing the industry or something like that. I just don’t subscribe to it. I look to it very much with an “all boats rise on the same tide” attitude.  I would like to see Australia – specifically Queensland but Australia generally – further develop post-production. Okay. I think we’re a hyper-competitive shooting location these days, but we have a lot of productions that shoot, and then we never see them again. And I think our post-production industry is underdeveloped and, in some cases, regressing. We should cultivate a post-production industry to have more of the process happening in Australia and develop those skills as well.

Can you talk a little bit about the time you spent with the young filmmakers involved in the BAFA initiative?

I think a big takeaway from the whole thing was that it’s no accident that [BAFA] is held in Korea because the storytelling feels so authentic there and so indicative of its place. As an Australian filmmaker, I’m constantly aware of the fact that we can still often be chasing what we think is real, what we think we should make, and what we think people want to watch. And so, when you sit down, and you’re hearing a pitch from a filmmaker from Myanmar talking about something so specific to his personal life experience and to the world of Myanmar, and yet you’re fighting back a genuine emotional reaction to the humanity and the story – that shows the power of authentic storytelling. It was a special experience meeting these filmmakers from all these different parts of Asia and seeing them tell these beautiful, often really special stories.

A workshop at the Busan International Film Festival

Does piracy continue to threaten your business, and what more can be done to mitigate against it? 

As an audience member, the only thing I can offer is that continually improving the user experience for official, legal content platforms remains the most effective bulwark against the proliferation of illegal, pirated ones. There is undoubtedly an ethical dimension to the issue as well, but it feels like it ultimately plays out in the arena of consumer behavior. People became comfortable paying to legally download digital music on iTunes and later stream it on Spotify, rather than acquire it from myriad illegal hosts, not because of some grand moral stand, but first, because increasingly effective policing of those sites made them harder and harder to reliably access and, in the end, because iTunes and Spotify are just…better! I would say the same goes for where people go to download and stream movies and other kinds of content.

With How to Make Gravy coming up, how is there a weight of expectation in dealing with something such a part of the fabric of Australian society?

Absolutely. We just had to embrace that, but that challenge was exhilarating. We did have the support of songwriter Paul Kelly. He very much had all he had to say on the subject in a brilliant four-minute song, but he’s definitely our audience member-in-chief, so that helps alleviate some of that pressure. We’re aware that everybody thinks they know what that song is about, so we hope people will make room in their hearts for this version. A prison Christmas movie feels like a pretty Australian thing – a man and his need to find his way back to his family is a feeling we hope is universal.

What are your thoughts about the current state of the Australian industry?

I sometimes feel like we’ve lost our way a little bit from the authentic Australian voice. It might be my generational bias, too, because the first Australian movies that I saw growing up in the early 90s were Strictly Ballroom, Muriel’s Wedding, and Priscilla [Queen of the Desert]. Those were just so Australian. They had this wonderful irreverence and color, but they also were deeply human and dealt with big issues. Priscila was this absurd road trip, but really, it’s also about someone’s relationship with themselves and their own identity and his son, and he picks up these other people who are struggling to claim their place in the world. It’s a very deep movie. I hope that How to Make Gravy will feel like perhaps a distant cousin across a few decades of movies like that.

 

Was there a key takeaway from the whole BIFF experience?

Coming a long way back to what we discussed earlier, they’re doing something right in Korea, and Parasite is as Korean as Muriel’s Wedding is Australian. So, my goal for myself, and my kind of clarion call to everybody else, is, whatever you want to make, let’s make things that are rooted in the way we make our own way through the world as Australians. Let’s present that.

 

For more interviews with filmmakers and producers taking big swings in Asia, check these out:

From “Kill Bill” to Martin Scorsese to “Shōgun”: Producer Eriko Miyagawa on Her Hero’s Journey

From Mumbai to Batam: The Unexpected Journey of Dev Patel’s “Monkey Man”

Benetone Films Co-Founder Kulthep Narula on Taking Thailand’s Film Industry to the Next Level

Pioneering Producer Auchara Kijkanjanas on Animating Thailand’s Entertainment Industry

Featured image: The Kim Family (Woo-sik Choi, Kang-ho Song, Hye-jin Jang, So-dam Park) in Parasite. Courtesy of NEON CJ Entertainment

Best of 2024: How “The Penguin” Production Designer Kalina Ivanov Helped Bring Gotham Back to New York City

*This interview was selected by measures having nothing to do with science as one of our standouts from 2024. The creation of Gotham for HBO’s shockingly good series The Penguin fell, in large part, to ace production designer Kalina Ivanov. Here’s how she pulled it off.

Production designer Kalina Ivanov was destined to be part of the HBO spin-off series The Penguin from creator Lauren LeFranc, which stars Colin Farrell as the title character, Oz Cobb, reprising his role from Matt Reeves’ The Batman and remaining, once again, utterly unrecognizable.

“The very first movie I saw in the theater after Covid stopped being Covid was The Batman, and I loved it,” Ivanov says. “I saw it in March, and then I got a call in May asking if I’d be interested in interviewing for The Penguin. And I said, oh my god, that is just phenomenal because out of all the characters that are comic book characters, Batman is my favorite and everything that has to do with Batman.”

The Penguin picks up after the events of Reeves’s gothic, gorgeously constructed The Batman, which pitted Robert Pattinson’s Batman against Paul Dano’s the Riddler, with Farrell’s gangster stealing every scene he was in. [For a peek at one of the best scenes in The Batman, check out this chase between Batman and the Penguin.)

The Penguin‘s narrative follows the rise of the devious mobster in an eight-part bingeable series that is more a character study of how The Penguin came to be and what he plans to do in a Gotham now short the former reigning gangster king, Carmine Falcon (played in the film by John Turturro), than an action-filled comic book movie. The introduction of new characters like Sopfia Falcone, Carmine’s daughter, brilliantly played by the scene-stealing Cristin Milioti, and Victor (Rhenzy Feliz), an impressionable teen who ends up being Cobblepot’s driver, add a rich dimension to The Penguin’s storyline that explores his backstory.

In creating the dynamic settings of the series, Ivanov first spoke with LeFranc and executive producers Matt Reeves, Dylan Clark, and Bill Carraro about designing an entirely new world for the Batman ethos. Below, she details how she conjured a dilapidated Gotham in the backdrop of a vibrant and very real New York City.

 

An ambitious project like The Penguin doesn’t happen often. Did anything initially stand out about it to you?

Lauren’s writing is so beautiful. Right away, I could tell that they were taking a new approach and a new direction with the character and the visuals and what part of the city they were going to show. My biggest concern was how do you continue a movie that was shot in England and Liverpool, and you are now doing it in New York.

So what was that like, going from re-conjuring Gotham from The Batman, shot in England, to the city that’s always been Gotham’s real-life inspiration, New York? 

England and New York are very different architectural vernaculars, right? So we had great conversations with Matt Reeves, Dylan Clark, Bill Carraro, and Lauren [LeFranc] about how to build our own universe. What exactly is the universe? What is the neighborhood? What is the world that the Penguin embodies? And where does he go? And it was very clear that they wanted to show Crown Point, and they wanted to kind of dwell on the lower depths of Gotham, not so much the fancy part of Gotham and or the Batman world of Gotham. So that was very liberating because that allowed us to create a whole new look.

 

This series is grittier than the more polished Batman films—even Matt Reeves’ decidedly street-level, darker film. Did you reference any material outside the comic books or previous films to develop the look?

Matt Reeves told us, which was very important to him and Lauren, that we should look at French Connection and be very inspired by the visual language of The French Connection and how that can translate into Gotham and how to use New York as our Gotham. That was extremely influential on the look because it immediately put us underneath tresses, subways, and arches. And we looked for so many underpasses of any kind we can imagine. And it became kind of the show’s vernacular and a great starting point to start building our Gotham.

 

How much did you work with local vendors in and around New York?

We worked with NYC Film Office and Film Yonkers, and we worked with so many local vendors. First of all, you want to help the city and want to help the vendors, prop houses, and everyone. We always work with Roscoe, which is around New York, and we have our own art department vendors. We’re very much involved with trying to help the economy of New York. And all the locations help because so much of the specific look for us was spending more time in Yonkers and the Bronx and less time in Manhattan.

The series picks up after The Riddler bombs Gotham in The Batman. Part of the opening sequence, Oz enters the Iceberg Lounge. Did you recreate its exterior from The Batman?

The exterior had to be a recreation, so what we did is we found a really great location in New York, which is not under a subway, but it’s actually the West Side Highway. I think 138th Street, exactly. We built the front entrance there. We had the drafting from the movie, and we recreated the entrance, but we broke the letters and we broke the awning because that all would have been broken by the flood. But then that location had the big giant tunnel, too, where we created this mass of debris and piles of broken cars. You’re really trying to set the tone of the series, and the tone that you’re going to see is this city in complete decay.

Iceberg Lounge sketch. Courtesy of Kalina Ivanov/HBO Max
Colin Farrell. Photograph by Courtesy of Max
The Iceberg Lounge, courtesy Kalina Ivanov/HBO Max.

When The Penguin enters the Iceberg Lounge, he ends up in a room we haven’t seen before. How did that come about?

Recreating the inside of the lounge was almost beyond our budget in a sense. So, we agreed to create a new environment that we had not seen, and that captured the spirit of the movie’s design. And so, it was a great opportunity for me because what I said to them is, okay, if Carmine [Falcone, played in flashbacks in The Penguin by Mark Strong] never goes to his mansion, and he’s always at the club working, he must have a flawed relationship with his family. So, if he’s a workaholic, he must have a bedroom adjacent to his club when he stays in town, right? Basically, like his quarters, his bachelor quarters. And that’s what we pitched to Matt, and the interior ended up being his bedroom, literally offsite from the lounge.

Carmine’s bedroom, courtesy Kalina Ivanov/HBO Max.

Well, you really made it feel like it was part of the movie.

Thank you. What helped was that I tried to capture the spirit of one of the windows. And I remember showing the set; it was one of the first sets we shot when the studio executives came, and they loved it because it had this gold ceiling and everything. With Carmine, it will be tasteful but a little bit in your face. But the important part about it is that it had to be tasteful because when you see The Penguin, you see how he wants to be Carmine, but he doesn’t have taste. So, it became a very interesting way to start contrasting these two gangsters.

Colin Farrell. Photograph by Macall Polay/Max

When we see the Penguin’s place in the Diamond District, we can see the contrast between Carmine’s and Oz’s tastes. How did you approach his living space?

That’s a classic example of taking something very real and elevating it in a sense. So, when I read that he lived in the Diamond District, it was very important for us that he was on the lower floor because there’s a story point where, as he rises, his living quarters will rise too. So, it was very important story-wise that he starts not exactly at the bottom, but he isn’t at the top yet. He’s not Carmine. So, because he was set in the Diamond District, I pitched the idea that he actually transformed a jeweler’s repair shop into his loft. If people start freeze framing, they will see that we actually printed an article about the jeweler who used to have his business there. We created that jewelry business basically and there’s a reference to the history of it. That’s how deep we went into it.

Colin Farrell. Photograph by Courtesy of Max

The touches of metal add a lot to the feel of the space, too.

The metal is so cold, and that character has a very calculated coldness. Yet, the Penguin can be so warm on the outside and be Victor’s father figure. And so, you have this wonderful combination of brick on one side and then the metal on the other. Thematically, it was really, really important to us.

Colin Farrell in “The Penguin.” Photograph by Courtesy of HBO

Since you mentioned themes, the color palette has a unique style. Do you have a reference point for it?

I really loved this kind of palette because if you think about it, it captures what a comic book is like, which is a very high contrast. So, even though I didn’t approach this like doing a comic book, I wanted to have some of the essence of the beauty of the comic books because they’re beautifully drawn. There’s a specific comic book from the 80s that Matt based The Batman on. So, that was a pretty good reference in terms of what kind of style of New York he wanted because New York was still very decrepit. It’s not that really shiny New York that it is now; it’s all stores, clothing stores, and very, very, very wealthy people everywhere. It was really a lot of graffiti and decay. It was building itself up. So, it was an interesting visual point. And I think that the palette followed the movie in many ways, but it definitely had more color than the movie because we were in so much more vibrant neighborhoods

Speaking of neighborhoods, Crown Point becomes an intricate part of the series. How did you want to treat the neighborhood after The Riddler’s bombing?

The Penguin comes from that neighborhood, and where he grew up is the neighborhood adjacent to it. So, we created a map of Gotham and a map of Crown Point. The important part of Crown Point was that it was extremely damaged by the flood due to the bombs [that the Riddler set there]. So, we used all of these references, including Hurricane Katrina. We actually used real FEMA charts to show how they labeled defunct buildings. Our map showed the flooding from level five to level one and when we would have more and when we would have less. It was very thought out throughout the vision of the series, not just part of the visual art but the show’s storyline.

 

The Penguin premieres September 19 on HBO. 

Featured image: Colin Farrell. Photograph by Courtesy of Max

 

From “Kill Bill” to Martin Scorsese to “Shōgun”: Producer Eriko Miyagawa on Her Hero’s Journey

A lucky break followed by a realization that the road ahead still won’t be a smooth march toward success is a pattern recognizable by many in the entertainment industry and beyond. The fortuitous happenstance for Eriko Miyagawa came in the form of an email saying that Quentin Tarantino was shooting in Beijing and looking for someone fluent in English and Japanese. This felt like an emphatically good turn of fortune for the smart, ambitious Miyawaga.

An intern at Radio Free Asia in Washington D.C. at the time, Miyagawa bought a one-way ticket to China. “It was 2002, and the job market was tough. I had nothing to lose,” she recalls over green tea in Tokyo. 

PASADENA, CALIFORNIA – FEBRUARY 09: Eriko Miyagawa of FX’s ‘Shōgun’ poses for a portrait during the 2024 Winter Television Critics Association Press Tour at The Langham Huntington, Pasadena on February 09, 2024 in Pasadena, California. (Photo by Robby Klein/Contour by Getty Images)

The gamble paid off, and she landed a gig translating on the set of Kill Bill. Though much of the film takes place in Japan, it was the first foreign production to shoot at Beijing Film Studio, a sharp shift from the Chinese Communist Party propaganda fare it was known for.

“It was like the best summer camp,” she says of her experience on Kill Bill, thinking at the time, “If you can make a living doing this, I’m in.”

 

The Last Samurai also came out the following year; Miyagawa felt that Japan was in the spotlight and that would be a way into the industry. However, the rest was not quite history.

Inspired by Miramax, Christine Vachon’s Killer Films, and what Todd Haynes was doing, she moved to New York to learn how to produce. Fierce competition, visa issues, and unpaid internships pushed her into advertising before she decided to head back to China.

Born in Kyoto, Japan, her father’s work saw her spend sections of her childhood in Indonesia, Dubai, and Thailand, picking up English and getting a feel for living across distinct cultures. After high school in Yokohama, she headed for Georgetown University, partly inspired by the trailblazing work of Sadako Ogata, the first female UN High Commissioner for Refugees, who had taken a Master’s there. Miyagawa later produced an independent film in Japan, Cast Me If You Can, directed by her son, Atsushi Ogata.

 

As part of Miyagawa’s culture and politics course at Georgetown, she studied Chinese for four years, a major advantage when she returned to Beijing as its film industry burgeoned and opened up to the world. 

“It was like the Wild West; it was the time when everyone was coming and opening up offices. All this crazy architecture was popping up, and almost overnight, the earning power of Chinese people was jumping.”

Freelancing, she worked on projects including Dreamworks’ The Kite Runner (2007), directed by Marc Forster, with Xinjiang province standing in for Afghanistan.

 

“It’s kind of unthinkable now. But at the time, it made sense. China was this big, rich place with diverse locations and high-level production crews. You go to the western part of China, which looks like Afghanistan. People look like they’re from there as well.”

Returning to Japan in 2008, she began to do some pre-production work for Silence, a passion project that Martin Scorsese had been trying to realize for decades. It would take a few more years before it finally came to fruition, filming in Taiwan in no small part due to its generous production subsidies.

“I was a point person for all things Japan. I was supposed to be producing, but I just really wanted to be near Marty Scorsese. I sort of inserted myself as his interpreter on set so I could sit next to him every day, watching the monitor. It was unbelievable.”

 

Shortly afterward came another project that did not initially run smoothly through the production pipeline. It was in 2016 when she was contacted about FX’s new take on Shōgun, with plans to shoot in the UK and Japan under a different production team. Revived under the watchful eye of showrunner Justin Marks and his wife and executive producer Rachel Kondo, the show began shooting in 2021 during Covid in Vancouver, with production incentives again playing a major role in the choice of location.

Much has been said about the show’s attention to detail and cultural authenticity, something that Miyagawa, along with star and fellow producer Hiroyuki Sanada, were at the heart of.

In addition to the intricate sets and costumes, language was inevitably a major challenge in a show based on a book written in English, a script originally in English but with around 70% of the dialogue in Japanese being made by a crew that, for the most part, didn’t understand it. Then factor in that Japanese is extremely context-heavy and that the language of the period the show is set in is as different to modern Japanese as Shakesperean English is to contemporary American English.

 

“If the dialogue had been in classical Japanese, then even audiences in Japan wouldn’t understand it all. Many direct translations from English also don’t work. So, you need to pull back and adjust all these nuances.”

Another linguistic example of the uncompromising eye for detail in the show is that the handwriting in letters and other documents was made to look like that of the original figures the characters are based on.

“There’s a Japanese calligraphy teacher in Vancouver who researched the handwriting of Hosaka Gracia – the model for Mariko (Anna Sawai) – and found that some of her scrolls had been preserved. And she would try to imitate that. Also, there are some scrolls from Tokugawa Ieyasu (the warlord on whom Sanada’s character is based). The writing might not even be shot in the end, but it’s a beautiful showcasing of how much everybody cared.”

“SHOGUN” — “The Eightfold Fence” — Episode 4 (Airs March 12) Pictured: Anna Sawai as Toda Mariko. CR: Katie Yu/FX

Despite getting the feeling that she was working on something truly special as the shoot progressed, Miyagawa still didn’t imagine that a show set in feudal Japan that “doesn’t have as many action sequences as people might expect, it’s more political mind games, and we even have poetry competitions,” with the majority of its dialogue not in English, would win a record-breaking 18 Emmys.

A single mother, Miyagawa also hails the supportiveness of the production in accommodating her two young children out to Canada, and even her parents to take care of them until they settled in. Making full use of their time there, Miyagawa’s daughter made her screen debut in episode six as the young Ochiba, played by Fumi Nikaido as an adult.

 

Season two and three of Shōgun are already in development, with some shooting in Japan being considered, which would intend to use recently introduced production incentives.

“I’m really excited that Japan has taken big steps forward regarding this new subsidy that offers up to 50%. I hope they see great results and that they will take it even further down the road because I think Japan has a great potential to be a production center for shows that are based or even not based in Japan.”

Miyagawa is developing two of her own projects, both of which have Japanese and international elements, though she doesn’t ultimately want to limit herself to stories linked to her homeland.

“It’s an exciting time in Hollywood. I feel like there’s a shift with shows like Shōgun and Squid Game. There’s much more appetite for broader storytelling for a global audience.”

Featured image: “SHOGUN” — “A Stick of Time” — Episode 7 (Airs April 2) Pictured: Moeka Hoshi as Usami Fuji. CR: Katie Yu/FX

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Featured image: “SHOGUN” — “The Eightfold Fence” — Episode 4 (Airs March 12) Pictured: Anna Sawai as Toda Mariko. CR: Katie Yu/FX

 

Fixing Our Laser Eyes on the “Superman” Trailer Easter Eggs, Character Glimpses, and Krypto

The first trailer for James Gunn’s Superman soared into view yesterday, with Superman himself, played by David Corenswet, starting the trailer in a nose-dive into the arctic ice. It was an intriguing way for Gunn to re-introduce the Man of Steel, banged up and clearly in pain (when Superman is having trouble breathing, you know things are serious), in need of assistance from his super-pup, Krypto. While there’s little doubt that Krypto will be a major star, what Gunn’s Superman also promises is the very first time the Man of Steel will be launched into a DC Universe with dozens of super-powered beings and metahumans in play. Gunn and his DC Studios co-chief Peter Safran have completely retooled the studio, with a chaptered rollout plan that soft-launched with Gunn’s animated Creature Commandos on Max and comes fully alive with his live-action Superman. This film, arguably the most hotly-anticipated film on the entire 2025 film slate, kicks off the feature film portion of “Chapter 1: Gods and Monsters,” the first phase of Gunn and Safran’s unified DC Universe.

As Gunn said at a press preview for the trailer, he wanted to make a new Superman that not only embodied the titular character’s essential goodness but also gave proper due to the other super-powered beings that have co-existed for generations on the pages of DC Comics alongside Superman himself.

“Superhero movies have taken these characters and said, ‘Okay, it’s Batman [or] it’s Superman, but it’s not any of the other stuff,’” Gunn said at the press preview. “We’re embracing all of the Superman mythology. He has friends who are other superheroes. He has people he doesn’t get along as well with who are other superheroes. He has a lot of the things that we love from the Superman comics that we haven’t been able to see as much of in filmed media, and definitely haven’t been able to see in a grounded way, which is what I hope we’ve created.”

To that end, the trailer revealed not only Superman cinematic franchise stalwarts Lois Lane (Rachel Brosnahan) and Lex Luthor (Nicholas Hoult), two indelible characters who have been portrayed on the big screen before, from Richard Donner’s seminal 1978 classic to Zack Snyder’s DC Studios films, but also characters like Green Lantern member Guy Gardner (Nathan Fillion), Hawkgirl (Isabela Merced), and Mister Terrific (Edi Gathegi). Instead of simply rolling out Superman and having him fight a single villain, say Lex Luthor, Gunn has populated his film with a baseball dugout’s worth of meta-humans and super-beings, giving Superman equals, something that was previously unthinkable until Marvel started filling the screen with more supes than we could count.

To that end, let’s take a quick flight through the trailer to ID the characters who will be mixing it up with Superman, Lois, and Lex.

The Stalwarts – Lois Lane & Lex Luthor

You can’t really have Superman without Lois Lane, and Gunn has said that one of the best filmmaking experiences of his life was seeing the chemistry pop between Rachel Brosnahan as Lois Lane and Corenswet as Superman. Lois is not just a swashbuckling reporter at The Daily Planet; she’s the apple of Clark’s eye. Brosnahan follows Amy Adams, Margot Kidder, Teri Hatcher, Kate Bosworth, and, going way back, Phyllis Coates in the second live-action Superman (a TV show called Superman and the Mole Men), and Noel Neill, the very first actress to play Lois in live-action, in Columbia Pictures’ 1948 Superman serials.

Nicholas Hoult plays the iconic Lex Luthor, a savvy, brilliant, power-made business titn and head of LuthorCorp. Hoult joins a list of Luthors that include Jesse Eisenberg, Gene Hackman (arguably the Lex Luthor), Kevin Spacey, Jon Cryer, and Michael Cudlitz. Hoult was in the running to play Superman himself, making it to the final round with Corenswet. That makes his Luthor casting all the more appealing, as we see these two legendary foes face off and imagine a world in which Luthor was the hero himself.

Krypto

The first trailer was a thrilling two minutes and change of re-introducing Superman to a world that will need to remember what it was like to look up to pure goodness—considering the scene where Superman’s being jeered and pelted in the head by an angry mob, it doesn’t appear to be going all that well. Yet it was Superman’s dog, Krypto, who stole the show when he appeared at the end of the trailer to drag a battered Superman home. Gunn has long been a major animal fan in his films, centering the third and final Guardians film around Rocket the Racoon and a storyline that gave us Rocket’s origins in what was essentially an animal shelter turned experimental lab. Gunn has said his adopted dog Ozu inspired him to put Krypto in the Superman script.

Hawkgirl

Isabel Merced swooped into the trailer as the winged superhero Hawkgirl, swinging her indestructible mace and providing Superman with some serious support. In the previous era of DC Studios, Aldis Hodge played Hawkman in Black Adam, which was centered on Dwayne Johnson’s titular antihero.

Guy Gardner

Gunn’s longtime collaborator, Nathan Fillion, plays the bowl-cut Green Lantern member Guy Gardner, part of the galactic space police force known as the Green Lantern Corps. Guy has some special skills, including flight and all sorts of nifty powers with his green ring. He’s also known as a little bit of a hard-headed dude, and we can expect him to mix it up in Superman and DC Studios’ upcoming Lanterns series on HBO.

Mister Terrific

Edi Gathegi’s Mister Terrific might be the one character here who’s even smarter than Lex Luthor. Mister Terrific is a bonafide genius, capable of inventing (or should we call it conjuring) just about anything. Terrific marshalls his vast intelligence to create bespoke, extremely powerful technologies, and he appeared in the trailer in a distinctive T-shaped mask that covered his eyes, nose, and mouth.

Jonathan and Martha Kent

While Superman is inherently good, major props must be given to his adoptive parents, Jonathan and Martha Kent, played here by Pruitt Taylor Vince and Neva Howell, for being the wholly decent, loving human beings Clark could fashion his view of humanity around. While Superman might have turned out to be a good guy no matter what, there’s little doubt that it was the Kents who showed him how equally good non-superpowered humans could be. In the last live-action, stand-alone Superman movie, Zack Snyder’s Man of Steel, the Kents were played by Kevin Costner and Diane Lane.

Metamorpho

Anthony Carrigan, who pulled off the nearly impossible by stealing scenes of Bill Hader’s Barry from Hader himself, plays Metamorpho. As his name suggests, Metamorpho can change his body into all sorts of shapes and elements, having shown off incredible abilities in the comics, like becoming as strong and sturdy as a boulder or as liquid as a river.

Kelex

The trailer includes a brief but compelling shot of Superman kneeling over what is clearly a fallen robot and looking devastated by it. The speculation is that this robot is Kelex, a Kryptonian servant droid who becomes the caretaker of Superman’s Fortress of Solitude. Considering Kelex would be one of the few connections Superman retains to his home planet, here’s hoping he’s not completely destroyed, as the trailer suggests he is.

Jimmy Olsen, Cat Grant, and Steve Lombard

The Daily Planet isn’t just the Clark, Lois, and Perry White show (Perry is the editor-in-chief and is played in Superman by Wendell Pierce). Skylar Gisondo plays the photographer, Jimmy Olsen, with Mikaela Hoover and SNL alum Beck Bennett playing reporters Cat Grant and Steve Lombard, respectively.

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“Superman” Reborn: The First Trailer for James Gunn’s Reboot Soars

James Gunn’s “Superman” Takes Flight With First Motion Poster

James Gunn Teases “Superman” Star David Corenswet’s Freakishly Great Performance

Featured image: Caption: DAVID CORENSWET as Superman in “SUPERMAN,” a Warner Bros. Pictures release. Photo Credit: Courtesy of Warner Bros. Pictures

“Superman” Reborn: The First Trailer for James Gunn’s Reboot Soars

James Gunn’s Superman has taken flight.

The first trailer for Gunn’s rebooted and reborn Man of Steel marks the official start of the feature film era for a newly invigorated DC Studios. However, the trailer opens with David Corenswet’s Superman in rough shape, bleeding in the snow near the Fortress of Solitude. We’re then inside the offices of The Daily Planet, getting our first glimpse of Rachel Brosnahan’s indispensable, irrepressible Lois Lane and her nerdy colleague, Clark Kent (Corenswet, obviously.)

Gunn’s Superman is the headliner in what he and fellow DC Studios co-chief Peter Safran have called “Chapter 1: Gods and Monsters,” the first phase in their newly unified DC Universe. There was no better way for Gunn to showcase the change in direction for DC than by giving its marquee superhero a makeover and letting him fly first out of the gate.

The trailer reveals David Corenswet’s Man of Steel, who in Gunn’s hands is already a known entity in Metropolis, not unlike the way The Batman director Matt Reeves introduced Robert Pattinson’s new Bruce Wayne in year two of his work as the Caped Crusader, sparing audiences another retelling of how Bruce’s parents, Martha and Thomas, were gunned down and set the young Bruce on his path of vengeance. Gunn’s Superman also eschews the Kryptonian’s classic origin story format, skipping over how Superman arrived on Earth from his destroyed home planet, was adopted by the Kents of Smallville, Kansas, and became the most recognizable superhero in the world. This means Superman wastes no time in establishing both his biggest adversary and most important ally; the trailer unveils Nicholas Hoult as the iconic villain, Lex Luthor, head of Luthorcorp, and Brosnahan’s Lois Lane, a casting coup that this brief glimpse confirms. Superman not only drops us in the middle of the action, it takes place over a short period of time.

For all of Gunn’s casting choices, Corenswet shoulders the biggest burden in the reboot, taking the cape from a well-liked Henry Cavill, who played Superman during DC’s Zack Snyder era. Gunn has been bullish on his casting choice.

“Honestly, from the bottom of my heart, David Corenswet is going to freak everyone out with how great he is,” Gunn told The Hollywood Reporter. “He is one of the best actors I’ve ever worked with, and he can do everything. The man is incredible.”

As he’s done time and time again in his career, Gunn’s gathered a cracking team of misfits, heroes, villains, and oddballs, some well-known, others lesser so, but all of whom provide his Superman with a more robust ensemble than any previous big-screen iteration of the character has. The world he’s built includes Hawkgirl (Isabela Merced), the Green Lantern (Nathan Fillion), Metamorpho (Anthony Carrigan), Mr. Terrific (Edi Gathigi), Jimmy Olsen (Skyler Gisondo), Eve Teschmacher (Sara Sampaio), Perry White (Wendell Pierce), and more.

Gunn directs from a script that he wrote himself, and the core source of his inspiration, at least in tone, is Richard Donner’s 1978 classic, which inspired Gunn to drop Legacy from the title of his own film. His Superman will not be like his previous superhero epics, all of which had a gimlet-eyed view of the world of superheroes and villains, from his Guardians of the Galaxy trilogy to The Suicide Squad and Peacemaker for DC. In Superman, Gunn has made perhaps the most surprising choice of his career; he’s created a film that, while still possessing comedic beats, doesn’t rely as much on an irreverent tone as his previous work has.

Check out the trailer below. Superman soars into theaters on July 11, 2025.

For more on Superman, check out these stories:

The First “Superman” Teaser Reveals James Gunn’s Epic Man of Steel Reboot

James Gunn’s “Superman” Takes Flight With First Motion Poster

James Gunn Teases “Superman” Star David Corenswet’s Freakishly Great Performance

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The First “Superman” Teaser Reveals James Gunn’s Epic Man of Steel Reboot

The first teaser for James Gunn’s Superman has arrived, giving us a glimpse of Gunn’s vision for a rebooted, reborn Man of Steel. David Corenswet stars as the legendary Kryptonian who crashlanded on Earth, with Gunn eschewing the usual demands of an origin story (showing us Superman’s arrival and his rise to becoming a protector of all things good) and instead dropping us into a world in which Superman already exists. Yet this first glimpse does give us the sense that people are still in awe of Superman, marveling at what they well know is neither a bird nor a plane.

Corenswet is joined by Rachel Brosnahan, playing Clark Kent’s indispensable partner at the Daily Planet, Lois Lane. Nicholas Hoult is playing Superman’s iconic, savvy, morally vacuous foe Lex Luthor. Although neither are seen in this brief teaser, nor are any of the following players.

Those players make up yet another impressive ensemble Gunn has put together, including Hawkgirl (Isabela Merced), the Green Lantern (Nathan Fillion), Metamorpho (Anthony Carrigan), Mr. Terrific (Edi Gathigi), Jimmy Olsen (Skyler Gisondo), Eve Teschmacher (Sara Sampaio), Perry White (Wendell Pierce), and more. Gunn directs from a script that he wrote himself.

Superman is the first feature film to fly from Gunn and Peter Safran’s new DC Studios, which they’ve been building into a unified universe of stories and characters stretching across TV, film, and games. It’s fitting that Superman is first out of the gate given the character’s unrivaled importance to DC (all due to respect to Batman, of course), and it’s easily one of the most hotly anticipated films of 2025.

Check out the teaser below. Superman hits theaters on July 11, 2025.

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Featured image: David Corenswet is Clark Kent/Superman in “Superman.” Courtesy James Gunn/Warner Bros.

“Spider-Man: Beyond the Spider-Verse” Snags Directors Justin K. Thompson & Bob Persichetti

The upcoming third film in the Spider-Verse franchise has snagged its directors.

Justin K. Thompson and Bob Persichetti will helm Spider-Man: Beyond the Spider-Verse for Sony. They’re longtime alums of the studio’s groundbreaking animated franchise, starting with the showstopping first film, 2018’s Spider-Man: Into the Spider-Verse, which introduced Miles Morales (Shameik Moore), Brooklyn’s very own Spider-Man, into Sony’s larger Spider-Man Universe. Persichetti was part of the directing trio for Into the Spider-Verse and was an executive producer on Across the Spider-VerseThompson was the production designer on the original film and part of the directing trio for the second film, joining Kemp Powers and Joaquim Dos Santos.

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Miles Morales (Shameik Moore) in Sony Pictures Animation’s SPIDER-MAN: INTO THE SPIDER-VERSE. Photo by Sony Pictures Animation

“We have had the immense privilege of being part of Miles’ journey from the very beginning, and directing the conclusion to his story is beyond exciting,” Persichetti and Thompson said in a statement. “The creativity and care poured into every minute of this project has been truly inspiring. We have crafted what we feel is a very satisfying ending, and we can’t wait for fans to experience it. We’re bringing everything we’ve got.”

The 2018 Into the Spider-Verse won the Oscar for Best Animated Feature. Across the Spider-Verse was also a critical and commercial smash, webbing a $690 haul worldwide in just 12 days of release, passing the entire theatrical run for the first film. Beyond the Spider-Verse, originally slated for 2024, doesn’t yet have a concrete release date.

Spider-Man India (Karan Soni) in Columbia Pictures and Sony Pictures Animations’ SPIDER-MAN™: ACROSS THE SPIDER-VERSE.

Another pair of longtime Spider-Verse creatives are onboard for the third film; Chris Miller and Phil Lord, the duo who launched the new franchise, return to write the script. They’ll also produce alongside Amy Pascal and Jinko Gotoh.

“Bob and Justin’s fingerprints are woven into the DNA of these films, and their passion for Miles’ journey shines through in every frame of his last adventure,” Lord and Miller said in a statement. “There is nothing more rewarding than collaborating with creative partners with bold vision and brilliant execution like Bob and Justin. We are thrilled to work with them once again to create a beautiful and satisfying conclusion to this story.”

“We’re very happy to officially announce the directorial duo behind the final chapter of the Spider-Verse saga,” said Kristine Belson, president of Sony Pictures Animation. “Bob, Justin, and the entire filmmaking team have been hard at work crafting something truly spectacular, and we’ve been blown away by what we’ve seen so far. There’s more work ahead to bring Miles’ story to a satisfying close and we are confident that they are perfect pair to pull it off.”

Deadline first scooped the story.

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Featured image: Spider-Man/Miles Morales (Shameik Moore) in Columbia Pictures and Sony Pictures Animations’ SPIDER-MAN™: ACROSS THE SPIDER-VERSE.

“Wicked: Part Two” Gets Official New Title Ahead of 2025 Release

The title for the sequel to director Jon M. Chu’s critical and commercial smash hit Wicked is no longer Wicked: Part Two. Universal announced yesterday that the second half of the two-parter is now called Wicked: For Good. 

The change is a nod toward a highly anticipated upcoming duet between the movie’s two stars, Cynthia Erivo’s Elphaba and Ariana Grande’s Glinda, in a tune that references their increasingly complex relationship.

The new title was shared on social media, confirming the change:

Wicked: Part One has been a juggernaut success, drawing millions of viewers across the globe for the star-studded adaptation of one of the most popular (pun intended, of course) Broadway hits of all time. It’s already surpassed $525 million at the global box office. Chu’s two-part film adaptation, as well as Stephen Scwhartz’s musical, were adapted from Gregory Maguire’s 1995 novel “Wicked: The Life and Times of the Wicked Witch of the West.” Erivo plays the titular Wicked Witch, revealing not only is Elphaba far from wicked, she’s a source of good in the world, one who tangles, befriends, and tangles afresh with Grande’s Glinda the Good Witch. The Broadway hit boasted two standout performances of its own, starring Idina Menzel as Elphaba and Kristin Chenoweth as Glinda.

Filming “Wicked.” Courtesy Alice Brooks/Universal Pictures.

Wicked: For Good will feature the return of not only Erivo and Grande, but Jonathan Bailey as Fiyero, Marissa Bode as Nessarose, Jeff Goldblum as The Wonderful Wizard of Oz, and Ethan Slater as Boq.

Wicked: Part One and Wicked: For Good were written by the author of the original Broadway musical book Winnie Holzman and Cruella co-writer Dana Fox.

Wicked: For the Good is due in theaters on November 21, 2025.

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Featured image: L to R: Cynthia Erivo is Elphaba and Ariana Grande is Glinda in WICKED, directed by Jon M. Chu

“The White Lotus” Season 3 Trailer Unveils a Starry Cast on a Dark Path in Thailand

The first trailer for The White Lotus season 3 has arrived, with the season set in Thailand, where the titular global resort chain offers its guests the kind of peace they so sorely lack in their daily lives. Mike White’s beloved satire returns to HBO this February, with one returning cast member from the first season (Natasha Rothwell) and another killer ensemble.

The new season’s guests include a girl’s trip trio (Leslie Bibb as Kate, Carrie Coon as Laurie, and Michelle Monaghan as Jaclyn), a wealthy businessman traveling with his wife and three kids (Jason Isaacs as Timothy), including Sarah Catherine Hook as his daughter Piper and Parker Posey as his wife Victoria, Rothwell returning as the spa manager, this time at the Thai location, and Walter Goggins as Rick, described as a “rugged man with a chip on his shoulder, traveling with his girlfriend Chelsea” [Aimee Lou Wood].

White has previously described season one as primarily about money, season two about sex, and now, season three will flirt with death. The trailer reveals the reliably off-kilter and brazenly self-involved guests handling a grab bag of anxieties that they’ve lugged all the way to Thailand, with a brief shot of a robbery and plenty of intimations of something going terribly wrong. This being The White Lotus, we can expect the unexpected and to once again be wowed by White’s command and clear love for his characters, even the most loathsome among them.

Here’s the full cast list: Leslie Bibb, Carrie Coon, Walton Goggins, Sarah Catherine Hook, Jason Isaacs, Lalisa Manobal, Michelle Monaghan, Sam Nivola, Lek Patravadi, Parker Posey, Natasha Rothwell, Patrick Schwarzenegger, Tayme Thapthimthong, Aimee Lou Wood. Additional cast includes Nicholas Duvernay, Arnas Fedaravičius, Christian Friedel, Scott Glenn, Dom Hetrakul, Julian Kostov, Charlotte Le Bon, Morgana O’Reilly, and Shalini Peiri

Check out the trailer here. The White Lotus is open for business on HBO on February 16.

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Featured image: Carrie Coon, Michelle Monaghan, Leslie Bibb. Photograph by Fabio Lovino/HBO

James Gunn’s “Superman” Takes Flight With First Motion Poster

Talk about soaring into Monday with a head full of perfectly coifed hair. The first poster, but static and motion, for James Gunn’s Superman is here. David Corenswet is front and center as the Man of Steel, with the poster flying ahead of the trailer, which is reportedly going to bow this week. There is zero doubt that Superman will be one of the biggest, if not the biggest, film of 2025, set to premiere on July 11, 2025.

Corenswet is joined by Rachel Brosnahan as Lois Lane, the irrepressible spitfire who is not only Clark Kent’s equal, but just as courageous as Superman himself, less the ability to fly or shoot lasers out of her eyes. The main antagonist is the iconic villain Lex Luthor, played by Nicholas Hoult (who was in the running for the role of Superman himself).

Gunn has once again assembled an ensemble of well-known and lesser-known superheroes and sidekicks, as he’s done many times in his career, only now in the first feature film out of a new look DC Studios that he’s co-running with Peter Safran. The cast includes Hawkgirl (Isabela Merced), the Green Lantern (Nathan Fillion), Metamorpho (Anthony Carrigan), Mr. Terrific (Edi Gathigi), Jimmy Olsen (Skyler Gisondo), Eve Teschmacher (Sara Sampaio), Perry White (Wendell Pierce), and more. Gunn directs from a script that he wrote himself.

The official Superman Twitter page revealed the motion poster:

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Featured image: The poster for Superman. Courtesy Warner Bros./DC Studios.